The New Math: Quantitative hedge funds are pressing into new realms of science

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by makloda, Apr 7, 2008.

  1. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    Excellent Post! I would love to hear more from other Quants on ET! QUANTS UNITE!!!!
     
    #101     Apr 11, 2008
  2. And yet you say it like we're all supposed to be impressed.

    WOW!.................Well done.

    Since 2001 if any of my traders were up such a small amount I 'd have got rid of them.

    You should really work on that system.
     
    #102     Apr 12, 2008
  3. SH_DW

    SH_DW

    Thank you sir!

    I have been humbled. If you will, can you enlighten me on the general methods YOUR traders employ OR at least the returns +max drawdowns you WOULD consider acceptable? By the way.. what type of LEVERAGE do these traders employ to achieve, may I assume, such lofty returns on capital?

    Mh
     
    #103     Apr 12, 2008
  4. SH_DW

    SH_DW

    $preader:

    When I first began this journey, I had scarcely 2 pennies to rub together. I had just been laid off from my job in yet another mass layoff of engineers at ANOTHER major corporation.. Carrier Corp & General Electric.. spending more money looking for another "salary limited" job.. ENOUGH!

    I worked an overnight job 60 hrs per week then came back home to develop "systems for trading at a time [1987] when "Quant Investing" wasn't the strategy du jour. Finally I was able to assemble a small account of $1200 to "play" with. I added to it when I could. Dealing with 1 contract and having to cut short bigger wins to put cash in the account was a challenge until I could handle 2+ contracts.

    It WAS difficult! There were bad periods, where losses forced me to "learn" a new concept then apply that "knowledge" to the program in development. That process continues unabated today. No longer do I use Excel exclusively or Clarity+Composer software. It is still FUN. I love what I do. I am NOT the best, however, it is a very satisfying life.

    My family, wife +4 children, DO support my work and I am passing on valuable knowledge to my children who will also be required to use their own capital if they decide to follow in my footsteps. There will be no silver spoon.

    I DO wish you the best in all your endeavors.. whatever your returns are. Good day sir.

    Mh:cool:
     
    #104     Apr 12, 2008
  5. What industry’s geniuses failing to understand is that most of their profits came from illegal gimmicks such as inside info , front running , late trading ..etc , etc
     
    #105     Apr 12, 2008
  6. SH_DW, great work!

    Why don't you carry position overnight? Do you mean the thermal effect never go beyond overnight?
     
    #106     Apr 12, 2008
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    Good analogy, on who has the title on those vehicles..

    And the other side of that coin, the small bank owns 3 cars ,all 3 are for sale;
    big banks,big car companys own most of those depreciating vehicles:cool:
     
    #107     Apr 12, 2008
  8. May I ask why you still only implement your methods in 3-5 lots?

    With such consistency over time isn't it natural to increase size and hopefully therefore profits?

    This is the usual pattern of profits I would expect from a talented and consistent trader and it usually blossoms over a three year period:

    By the end of year 2 an average month should be what was made throughout the whole of year one.

    By the end of year 3 a good day is the equivalent of an average month in year 2.
     
    #108     Apr 12, 2008
  9. SH_DW

    SH_DW

    I have recently begun to trade the same #of contracts PER $25,000 balance in my accounts. Since I will not divulge total capital traded -an example would be that at $100,000 I would trade 4 to 20 contracts [1 to 5 c at $25,000].. it is trickier to get in and out.

    I took my time in order to limit max % drawdown of capital to more manageable levels +am cautiously tackling larger size positions.

    Any ideas /suggestions on how larger size might be handled best?? I have been used to getting in at the prevailing market price.. this is tougher to do effectively when trading larger positions. I prefer to execute trades when I WANT to be in or OUT, therefore, market orders seem best. I am open to other ideas!

    Thank you ahead of time for any suggestions on trading larger size. It has been a good discussion overall.. good trading next week all.

    Mh
     
    #109     Apr 13, 2008
  10. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

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    #110     Apr 13, 2008