The myth of letting your winners run

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Flowfollower, Jun 2, 2020.

How do you do it?

Poll closed Jul 21, 2020.
  1. Outlier hunting

    20.7%
  2. Profit target

    44.8%
  3. A combination of both eg trim and trail

    34.5%
  1. themickey

    themickey

    I bought a new stock position yesterday after a 245% jump.
    ASX Moonshots
     
    #241     Feb 26, 2021
  2. GotherL

    GotherL

    The issue is distinguishing between a winner or something that just dumps or dips so much you can no longer justify holding it. Those situations happen so many times they instill a fear in you to take profit while you can.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2021
    #242     Feb 26, 2021
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  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Oooh, I like that. Gotta' remember that mindful observation if I see it in myself.
     
    #243     Feb 26, 2021
  4. %%
    Tough question.
    NO\ but i dont do single stocks anymore 5% gap up all the time can BE A GOOD deal sometimes.WHY; i dont do single stocks anymore/LOL.
    And thats why many let the profits ride. Some thing new i most likely would watch it for 50 or 55 days+++++++
     
    #244     Feb 26, 2021
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  5. deaddog

    deaddog

    I would watch the price action the next day. If it opened near the prior days close and moved up I might add to my position. It it started to sell off I would probably exit the position and take my 40 whatever % profit.

    If it gapped up the next day I'd sell part of my position into strength. I let winners run but I'm not greedy. Chances are it will back and fill.
     
    #245     Feb 26, 2021
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    This is what both of you are saying:

    Let the winners run is meaningless if I don't know what the underlying is going to do. If I know, I don't let the winners run, I have an exit ramp.
     
    #246     Mar 2, 2021
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  7. deaddog

    deaddog

    I don't ever know what the underlying is going to do. I know what I'm going to do.
     
    #247     Mar 3, 2021
  8. Ok. Using 50% was an extreme example.

    My point is that if you're a trend follower, you're relying on outlier trades for your profits. So why discriminate on entries?

    Isn't the whole premise for trend following that you cannot predict what price will do next?

    Surely a stock that is trending meets is that only criteria that matters and your stop loss will take care of your exit.

    So what's with the selection bias?
     
    #248     Mar 11, 2021
  9. i'll share my strategy that's far from perfect but works ok: i buy stocks with steady upward momentum (higher highs, higher lows) and i sell after it's up 5-7% percent. if it breaks the trend downward I try to immediately sell. if it jumps 10-15% i try not to be greedy and sell.

    my biggest problem is that I end up with a few stocks that suddenly change their momentum and I end up bag holding for weeks, months, and for some trades, likely years .. thanks a lot VLDR

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    here's an example: i've been trading this one in and out for the past few months. i recently got in again at $97.50 so my target is $102-103.

    *looking closely at this chart, the trade is starting to look a little tired. might close it if we head lower in the new few days.
     
    #249     Mar 11, 2021
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  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Don't tell me you are going to let your winners run? :)
     
    #250     Mar 12, 2021