The mounting death toll in Iraq: When does the public say..."enough is enough"?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jbtrader23, Nov 15, 2003.

  1. Today, 17 more GI's are dead in Iraq. I read the number is now over 400 since the start of the war in March. 400 dead for what?

    No WMD's!

    No Saddam!

    No stability or order yet.

    I guess the public is more worried about the job market than GI's in Iraq. But its still a tragedy. A few dead everyday should be unaccetable.

    I would like to see, just once, a person ask him, "Sir, would you still have troops in Iraq if it meant your daughter was on the front line". Or asking any Senator or Congressman that question who supported this debacle.
  2. dumya is well protected, media well controlled, public conditioned in fear and stupidity.

    The cabal is smart, the KNOW they deal with a mushroom for American public. How do you take care of mushrooms?

    You feed them bullshit and keep them in the dark:D :D

    But there is a twist in all this.... the cabal is feeling the heat, and going insane along with a nation in denial.
    Yall know how the saying goes: God makes the most powerful insane before He destroys them:(
  3. Pabst


    Last I heard, service in the armed forces was optional not compulsory.
  4. A soldier's job is to be placed in harm's way, if necessary. Our commander-in-chief is the one who gives the marching orders, even questionable ones. It's harsh, but possible death goes with the territory and every soldier understands that.
  5. oh this is so shallow.. soldiers are people too !
  6. jstanton


    U.S. casualties from Iraq war top 9,000
    By Mark Benjamin
    Published 11/14/2003 2:06 PM

    WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 (UPI) -- The number of U.S. casualties from Operation Iraqi Freedom -- troops killed, wounded or evacuated due to injury or illness -- has passed 9,000, according to new Pentagon data.

    In addition to the 397 service members who have died and the 1,967 wounded, 6,861 troops were medically evacuated for non-combat conditions between March 19 and Oct. 30, the Army Surgeon General's office said.

    That brings total casualties among all services to more than 9,200, and represents an increase of nearly 3,000 non-combat medical evacuations reported since the first week of October. The Army offered no immediate explanation for the increase.

    A leading veterans' advocate expressed concern.

    "We are shocked at the dramatic increase in casualties," said Steve Robinson, executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center.

    Of the non-combat medical evacuations:

    -- 2,464 were for injuries, such as those sustained in vehicle accidents.

    -- 4,397 were due to illness; 504 of those were classified as psychiatric, 378 as neurological, and another 150 as neurosurgery.

    "We are especially concerned about the psychological and neurological evacuations from this war," Robinson said. "We request a clarification of the types of illnesses people are suffering from so we do not have a repeat of the first Gulf War. We need to understand the nature and types of illnesses so scientists can determine if significant trends are occurring."

    Army Surgeon General's Office spokeswoman Virginia Stephanakis told United Press International Thursday that it is misleading to combine psychiatric and neurological problems. Some of the neurosurgery might be operations on the spinal cord, for example.

    "Those are apples and oranges," she said.

    She also said that some troops evacuated for psychiatric reasons later returned after getting a rest.

    In early October, the Army Surgeon General's office said 3,915 soldiers had been evacuated from Operation Iraqi Freedom for non-combat injuries and illnesses, including 478 with psychological problems and 387 for neurological reasons.

    The new total of 6,861 reported non-combat evacuations is a rise of 57 percent since then.

    The latest data on non-combat evacuations includes 1,628 orthopedic (bone) injuries. Other leading causes for evacuations include:

    -- 831 surgeries for injuries;

    -- 289 cardiology cases;

    -- 249, gastrointestinal;

    -- 242, pulmonary (lung);

    -- 634, general surgery;

    -- 319, gynecological;

    -- 290, urological;

    -- 37, dental.

    Stephanakis said the pulmonary problems included soldiers who suffered from pneumonia as part of a cluster investigated by the Army in August.

    The numbers don't include service members treated in theater or those whose illnesses -- such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder -- were not apparent until after they returned to the United States.



    Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International
  7. In Vietnam, more than 58,000 Americans lost their lives. At the height of the war, 500 soldiers were being killed each week.

    In the Iraq war and the subsequent occupation, we have lost fewer men to hostile fire than in a single terrorist attack in Lebanon in 1983. We've been losing about a soldier a day since the first of June. At this rate, we'll reach the Vietnam total in about 158 years.

    The level of violence in Iraq is still extremely low -- I get the feeling that your average L.A. street gang would be more vicious than these rather ineffective holdout Saddam loyalists. The suicide bombers who attacked the Marine compound in Lebanon killed more Americans in one fell swoop than these jokers in Iraq have been able to do since the beginning of the war.

    Not very impressive, except perhaps to the left-wing media and liberal posters here who seem to find an annual death rate of less than 1 per 100,000 in a war zone to be indicative of enormous problems.

    Granted, war is hell but let's keep things in perspective!

  8. So leaving will bring stability and order? :confused:


  9. War ain't so bad for loudmouths typing away on message boards, is it?
  10. Sorry, John Q. Pubic hair, but I didn't volunteer to become a soldier.

    But I would have no qualms about serving my country.

    Wise ass.
    #10     Nov 16, 2003