The month that went nowhere...

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Overnight, Aug 30, 2019.

  1. If I recall correctly, you used to be a manual trader, but automated all of it? Did you change your methodology along the way while automating or was it just a matter of translating your manual trading into hard rules?

    How long did it take you to become fully automated?
     
    #11     Aug 30, 2019
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  2. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Yes, I used to trade of DOM KOSPI futures.

    What I do now has nothing to do with what I did 5 years ago.

    It has been a long journey. My first algo started to trade in 2014.
     
    #12     Aug 30, 2019
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  3. I understand. Are your algorithms based on high frequency trading?

    FWIW, I can't quite imagine how I could code my current strategies. In short, I do a lot of If-Then analysis based on statistical data (where the process of obtaining that is fully automated). But I'm not sure I could find a way to automate it. It would certainly be a long journey. But of course one where the strategy could also become better understood and improved.

    I'm trying to reduce/eliminate the discretionary element of my trading. At least during market hours. But it's not easy...
     
    #13     Aug 30, 2019
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  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    No. Holding time is anywhere from few hours to about max 2 days. Totally flat for the weekend. I only trade CME futures.

    Yeah, no easy task for sure.
     
    #14     Aug 30, 2019
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  5. %%
    Actually AUG = a bit down as of close today,QQQ ,SPY,Overnite.
    But still going up YTD + + up nicely above 200 day moving average+ both close to 52 week HI:cool::cool:, :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
     
    #15     Aug 30, 2019
  6. Congratulations. Many longer-term stock traders I know who hold their positions for weeks on average had a bad time coping with Trump tweets which strike unpredictably.

    Are you a short-term/swing intraday trader who hold the positions for hours on average? I'm not into intra-day trading but I think volatility markets with wide intra-day trading range should favour the intra-day traders more than the longer-term ones.
     
    #16     Aug 30, 2019
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  7. ET180

    ET180

    Volatility also not friendly to traders who primarily short options. Yes, it can give good opportunities to place new trades -- open trades when IV is elevated, but if you are short options without a strong directional bias and wish to maintain a somewhat close to neutral delta, then you don't want volatility as it will likely lead to whipsaws.
     
    #17     Aug 31, 2019
  8. trader99

    trader99


    I'm mostly intraday trader though I have swing and position traded with some success. In some way, I'm experimenting with both approaches(long term vs intraday). So in a year I want to see which one ends up being better. The one stock I'm holding long term broke out when I bought it and it's still going. However, it had some WILD pullbacks. Shocking so due to Trump tweets or what not.

    However, I'm still holding it since the trend is still intact. So I'll ride it for as long as the trend is still intact. That's my experiment.

    Whereas for my intraday, I'm trying to catch the intraday moves. I like that better since it consistently generates profits and I can sleep at night.

    The position trade I can sleep at night is because the big picture trend is still intact though it has some really wild and crazy days that make me question it. But then it recovers and heading toward new highs. So, I'll hold it for as long as it still looks good. Could be months or even a year or more. Let's see.
     
    #18     Aug 31, 2019
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  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    Trying position trading now as I plan to split my capital into short term and long term trading. Position trading has its advantages of less time alloted to managing each and every trade. You have to deal with the wild swings but, it should not matter if you have proper risk management. Trends last longer too giving you the potential for huge gains on a small amount of capital.
     
    #19     Aug 31, 2019
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