The Monkey Calendar

Discussion in 'Options' started by cdowis, May 24, 2008.

  1. cdowis

    cdowis

    The aug OIH does not have a strike price above 250, so I cannot place a vertical where I normally would place it.

    I contacted the broker and they will make a request to the exchange.

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    Sigh, I hate to admit my stupidity, but here goes.

    I place a "quickie" jul RUT calendar without the vertical yesterday. Waiting to leg into it when the market moved up.

    Ouch.

    Got out a few hours later with my tail behind my "leg" (pun intended) and paid about 50 cents in tuition. Just a single lot -- I may be stupid but I'm not dumb.
     
    #101     Jul 2, 2008
  2. What strike? Usually with calendars you have better chances (than vertical) to survice. Wondering why you bailed out so fast.
     
    #102     Jul 2, 2008
  3. cdowis

    cdowis

    jul/aug 700 put. I think I got in around 1000. Bailed out when the market was making a major move down so quickly.

    "Stepping in front of a freight train to pick up a dime" comes to mind.
     
    #103     Jul 3, 2008
  4. part 2 and scenario file.

    Comapre the Greeks, the breakevens, max profit/loss nos. for different strategies. This is just half the story. Whichever strategy seems favorable, create a plan, and using TOS past data see what happened and what could have been done to manage the position.

    (Note: I had to use Options Oracle as I can not access TOS platform due to the firewall).

    I just noticed that the Dbl Calendar in the PDF is actually a Dbl Diag. I'll try to update the file later.
     
    #104     Jul 3, 2008
  5. cdowis

    cdowis

    As I read it, you are comparing the double diag with a single calendar.

    Interesting, but we are talking about a monkey calendar. That position has been defined in the first post of the thread.
     
    #105     Jul 3, 2008
  6. My intent is no direct comparison rather evaluation of various options.

    Look at part 2 last 2 pages, I have your position in there.

    I have removed part 1 as i noticed that in part 2 instead of Dbl calendar I had Dbl dig. sorry about that.

    I am trying to combine both parts in one, and the size is larger than allowed to upload. I will post the udpate later. The best way is to use the OPO file (or TOS) and try the strategies.
     
    #106     Jul 3, 2008
  7. ok, here is the updated file (no change for part 1) I have to keep as it was.
     
    #107     Jul 3, 2008
  8. and Updated part 2 wiht updated OPO file.
     
    #108     Jul 3, 2008
  9. cdowis

    cdowis

    Liquidated the RIG calendar at 320. I still have a BIDU vertical, but the rest of the positions are liquidated for Jul.

    I am pretty much at break-even for Jul.
     
    #109     Jul 7, 2008
  10. cdowis

    cdowis

    Normally I would not put a put vertical, but if the position continues to move up, I may do this to hedge my call vertical. I would still give myself plenty of room on the downside, so I would not give myself too much premium on the put vertical. Not trying to balance it with a "true" IC, just a small hedge.
     
    #110     Jul 9, 2008