The mighty U.S. has lost 2 wars, Afghanistan and Ukraine, under Biden

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wilburbear, May 26, 2023.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    The US will give Ukraine billions to rebuild.

    The US military and economy will still be #1 in the world.

    Russia's economy and military will be devastated for decades to come.They will be worse than they were after The Afghan war which lead to The USSRs collapse. Putin will never invade another country after this war and Russias next leader/leaders wont think of invading another country for decades.NATO will have 2 more countries than they did before Ukraine,one of them 850 miles on Russias border and 150 miles from St Petersberg.

    The US still had the #1 military and economy in the world after Iraq and Afghanistan.Russia was in shambles after Afghanistan and will be after Ukraine.Even after The Ukraine war is over US sanctions will remain for a long time,continuing to devastate their economy while they try to rebuild.They will continue to have to sell their # 1 export(oil) to The Chinese at 40% discounts for a long time.Their only friend that can help them ,China, will only do so by taking advantage of them in every deal like they do when buying their oil at huge discounts.

    I hate Biden for the job he has done domestically,but he has done a great fucking job in neutering Russia for decades to come at the cost of only half of 1 years US defense budget.
     
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  2. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    This is complete bs. I am shocked in the information age that Americans like yourself still do not understand the complexities of war concerning geography, population, and nuclear threats. You may have the #1 military but against the rest of the world you are overmatched on so many levels. No, you can't do anything you want. Keep your allies well then we all have a chance.
     
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  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    When Putin retires to his hometown of St Petersberg he will be able to see NATO from his house.


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    #13     May 28, 2023
  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You won Vietnam too right ?
     
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    #14     May 28, 2023
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Did we though, or are you engaging in copium? Germany was a victory, South Korea was a victory*. Vietnam, AFG, Iraq, it doesn't matter how many battles we won if the enemy ends up seizing the territory controlled before the war ends. It's like calling Soviet occupation of Afg a victory because they had superiority over the country.

    N.Korea & S. Korea are still at war technically....if N. Korea were to take over, technically that war would be lost.
     
    #15     May 28, 2023
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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    #16     May 28, 2023
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    Ok. I will give you that, the US vs the entire rest of the world would be a bit difficult. Still the odds are with us.
     
    #17     May 28, 2023
  8. mervyn

    mervyn

    every empire has an expiration date at some point, starting with internal politics.
     
    #18     May 28, 2023
  9. wildchild

    wildchild

    Pretending it didnt happen, doesnt mean it didnt happen.

    They way Biden left Afghanistan was disgusting.

    "They are not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There is going to be no circumstance in which you are going to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable." Joe BiteMe.


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    #19     May 28, 2023
  10. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Germany was a victory for the Allies. A good working example of when the #1 military nation in the world tries to take on the world. A huge chunk of the German win was due to the UK and USSR grinding them down for years. Geography/weather in USSR was Hitler's biggest blunder. Many other "smaller" countries contributed in a meaningful way including Canada.
     
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    #20     May 28, 2023