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So? Cry more. As soon as you begin to lose your "argument" in this thread, you'll start with the ad hominems as well. We've seen you in action, remember? Anyway, I guess you missed the "what if" part, huh? How'd you do that? Now answer the question: in light of new evidence concerning yourself, you'd want previous views revised, would you not? Or do you consider that question stupid too? ROTFLMAO.
I would think you might know by now, I have zero interest in responding to what I think are stupid questions from you.... The most recent question falls right into the same category as the other questions I think are stupid. Does the fact that I think these questions of yours are stupid constitute a conclusion by me that you are in fact stupid? Not necessarily. As far a "losing" an argument, well you can get in line with kent who has appointed himself the judge of such matters....
And that makes it religious dogma not part of science. Scientific theories all have the element of disprovability or they are not science. Also, Darwinism last I read about it, is agnostic regarding how life first began. Rather it is the theory of how life developed after the first life formed however that may have happened. DS
Posting a thread entitled "The lunacy of the Darwinists," seems pretty "insulting and argumentative," "without merit," to me. Not even the Roman Catholic Church regards evolutionary theory as "lunacy," so it would seem that your position on the subject is rather fringe. Maybe you ought to read the site rules that you post so as to shame others into compliance just a little more carefully, and then see if you can't apply them to your own conduct.
Are you suggesting that there is no lunacy among the Darwinists? I think you would be hard pressed to find the Catholic Church supporting of Darwinism as representative of the actuality of the origin of man, as commonly understood that man evolved by random ignorant chance from lower species without any input or design of God, or need I remind you of what Darwinism essentially is? <img src=http://members.cox.net/stockdevil/APE-MAN.gif.jpg>
An alternative view...some food for thought... Authoritive sources say that species are evolving themselves. This is a very cosmic view that some people can't contain in their brains. Coincidentally, I subscribe to the view that everything in the dense, "physical" environment is here by choice of thinking beings. Archetypes (species) are invented, used, and changed by consensus intent, by the beings most closely associated with the archetypes invention, upkeep, use, and purpose . The work of creation is not finished as even the thinking beings involved with dense evolution are evolving themselves...and as they evolve, so does the whole...and the source of all. This is a view of a highly delegated set of intelligent beings, driven by curiosity and an appetite for experiences in order to learn and grow. Imagine an artist who paints a picture, and then enters the picture to live and experience what he has created. This is the basic viewpoint (theory) that can carry us foreward toward solutions rather than this endless back and forth about God (individual dictator) or non-God randomness. We are the creators of this consensus environment...unlimited beings having limited experiences...if only for the sake of having experiences. But most likely with a worthy purpose oriented toward the growth of the entire. As such, we are all gods and goddesses, experiencing what it's like to be so stupid as not to even remember who or what we are anymore. The best representative of this point of view I have found to be Seth as channeled by Jane Roberts. Jem will be glad to know that Seth was once a Pope in the second century or so, albeit "not a very good one". Back in the 70's, Seth was already talking about stem cells....cells that have the ability to become anything. Thought and intent drives the cells to become what they become. So to me, Seth is an authoritive source, and good enough for me. The main thing is to begin with a decent theory so that progress can be made. Currently, in this thread and in the mainstream, there are no decent, all encompassing theories. JohnnyK
Your comments imply, not that some Darwinists are lunatics, but rather that Darwinists, as a group are lunatic. Don't try to change your definition to make your premise seem rational. In my view, you have suggested that others are insulting and argumentative without merit, and that this is a violation of ET's Rules of Conduct, within the context of a thread which you opened under an unmeritorious, insulting and argumentative title. I find your position highly hypocritical, and this has nothing to do with evolutionary theory or Darwinism. It's just a comment about your debating methods.
You are of course entitled to your take and spin.... Since this article was not about all Darwinists but rather about a specific situation that spoke of some Darwinists, not all Darwinists, I believe your conclusions about my position are invalid. Now if all Darwinists act like lunatics, then of course it would be logical to state that "The lunacy of the Darwinists" applies globally to all Darwinists...but that was not what this article was about, nor were my comments about all Darwinists. I am sure there are reasonable Darwinists, just as there are reasonable theists, who both understand quite clearly the difference between their respective practices of faith and the practice of dogmatically indoctrinating people into scientific belief systems or non scientific belief systems...and they both understand that while they may personally believe in something, that their personal beliefs are in no way to be presented as anything more than that. That some Darwinists act like lunatics, seems to be human nature, just as some theists act like lunatics, some right wingers act like lunatics, and some left wingers display lunacy.... That's just my opinion though... Oh, and I would give my opinions of your debating tactics, but I am trying to keep this civil, and G rated, and within the guidelines of the mods. You can now of course self promote yourself once again to the level of judge and claim some shallow empty victory....if it makes you happy....