The loneliness of success

Let us find out more about fear of success :
Few themes :
- punishin success
- success punished
- self-sabotage
- outperformance, outperformers vilification.

One video
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This is an old reply... and I agree with it

This thread is surely another bogus alias thread!!!

Probably the same guy who's been reposting the same sad failed trader stories over and over.... most recent incarnation of which was "My 6 year trading experience in a nutshell"...

Or maybe this is another "Woody" alias?

In his opening post he talks about not being able to relate to people who have a dayjob, blah blah blah

Here in May 2011 (after he started this thread) he is talking about paper trading and how he's only been swing trading for 3 years.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3185702#post3185702

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3174172#post3174172
But here (also May 2011) he directly implies he's been trading since the 90's and has quit his job

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201200
And here he says "I still have a long slog ahead of me before I can quit my day job"

BULLSH*T!!

 

Here is my professional advice. I have 30+ years of experience in the fields of behavioral and cognitive psychology. I also used to be a pro "shrink". So, here is the advice that you should be able to appreciate if you have the intelligence that you claim you have.

WRITE THE BOOK

Not necessarily about trading. Write about anything you care about. Work hard, get good at writing. Not only will you solve the entire mentioned above problem but you also will be able to enjoy life the way you have never enjoyed it before! If you do believe that you have something to share then SHARE IT!
If you take my advice seriously you will thank me! I used to charge for that and for you - it's free. Take it and enjoy it!

You will be amazed what it will do to you!

Cheers,
MAESTRO (your local ET shrink)

 

hahahaha.
So may be time we look to this "fear of success" , as fear of success can also hold people back.

Examples of how fear of success manifest itself:
- procrastination
- self-sabotage
- self-limitations
I think this is actually very important "fear of success".

 

Great catch, Ol' Yella.

Now I'm pissed that fake shit like this would be tolerated or even encouraged just to generate page views.

 

MAESTRO : glad we have here a pro "shrink".
Please feel free to add as much as you can on fear of success.
Many thanks in advance.

 

Interesting quote:

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?

Actually, who are you not to be?

You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
"

 

start your own business and collect"corporate welfare" if you think it is a gravy train.
once a firm reaches a certain size hiring an employee is a major decision: hire a black and then fire him you will be sued for racial discrimination. hire a woman and fire her you will sued for gender discrimination. hire a disable and fire the person you will be sued for not providing the work accommodations. hire an older person and fire them you will be sued for age discrimination.etc.
now some idiots in congress would like to pass a bill that you cannot discriminate against the long term unemployed. etc.

then you wonder why companies are in no rush to hire.

to that add that the US is a financially bankrupt country, desperate to sustain a bloated and useless gov' workforce which inhibits the private sector with overwrought regulations.

 

Self-sabotage, fear of success

http://guesswhatnormalis.com/2007/11/self-sabotage-a/


Fear of success is actually fear of change.

Everybody’s heard the term ‘fear of failure.’ It’s very easy to hear that expression and think, “Yeah. I get it. Who wouldn’t be scared to fail? Failure sucks.” But when I hear the expression ‘fear of success,’ I scratch my head (figuratively) and think, “Well, why? Why would someone be scared to succeed? I mean success is a good thing.” Why would anyone want to not succeed?

There’s a relationship between self-sabotage and fear of success. Self-sabotage is our way of avoiding success. What’s scarier? Not succeeding or succeeding? Be honest. Does the thought of success scare you more than the thought of not succeeding?

Isn’t failure more…comfortable? Self-sabotage keeps you right where you are – frustrated, but comfortable.

Your fear of success is in love with self-sabotage.

Success, to the soul, means leaving home. It means departing from what’s currently familiar. Abandoning the present, and embracing the unknown. Success requires risk-taking, large and small risks. Being open to success means becoming open to the possibility of leaving all that is familiar, and comfortable. It means leaving yourself as you know yourself. It could mean leaving a familiar neighborhood, town, and being farther away from family. Success entails change. Change of job, change of location, and a change of you.

No wonder so many people take the path of least resistance. No wonder so many people avoid success and, instead, veer toward self-sabotage…toward the comfortable familiarity of the old.

THE HERO’S JOURNEY

If you want to discard your fear of success and self-sabotage, then you must embrace your life’s journey. The hero’s journey is an old, archetypal description of life’s path. (It’s also a developmental dramatic arc often used for movies and novels – Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.)

The stages of the hero’s journey are:

The Ordinary World
The Call to Adventure
The Refusal of the Call
Meeting with the Mentor
Crossing the First Threshold
Tests, Allies, Enemies
Approach to the Inmost Cave
Ordeal
Reward (seizing the sword)
The Road Back
Resurrection
Return with the Elixir

Your present life is the Ordinary World.

If you commit to starting and finishing a project, that is your Call to Adventure.

Your Refusal of the Call will be self-sabotage, the part of you that wants to talk you out of the idea. Addiction is one form of self-sabotage. Addiction prevents growth – that is textbook self-sabotage. It’s scary to change because it can feel like abandonment, so addicts choose to keep using instead.

Once you meet someone (or read something) that causes you to reconsider your journey (or project), you will have had your Meeting with the Mentor.

Once you successfully get past a tremendously difficult aspect of the project, you will have met and Crossed the First Threshold.

Along the way there will be Tests (events or people (including yourself) that test your steadfastness), Allies (folks who help you toward your goal), and Enemies (folks who try to distract you from your goal). One “test” could be your old self testing your new self, in the form of perfectionism (a precursor to self-sabotage). Many ACoAs are perfectionists. The need for something to be just right, perfect, paralyzes us. The need for something to be “perfect” before it’s finally done derails us. It is a distraction. It prevents us from starting projects (because they won’t turn out perfectly) and it prevents us from finishing projects (because they don’t match up with our perfect vision).

Your Approach to the Inmost Cave is both a personal insight, potentially life-changing, as well as a reaching of a certain point of no return.

At this point an Ordeal may come, in which your project or goal will be in some sort of jeopardy. But because you are steadfast and because you have made a personal discovery, you are not going to be prevented from your path at this point.

Your Reward is either the reaching of your goal or completion of your project, or an unexpected but incredibly fortunate surprise.

The Road Back is your journey back towards the “home” from which you began the adventure.

Your Resurrection is the creation of a brand new self – you have been deeply affected by your journey and goal-reaching. This is your new identity revealing itself to you, and the world.

The Return with the Elixir is your reaching “home” and sharing your journey, new self, and ‘helpful message’ to others based on your new understanding and adventure.

That’s success – transformation.

 

Don't know what possessed me to dig around, something just didn't seem right about the original post.

I've learned to be skeptical of everything I read on forums....