The legitimate complaints against Bush regarding the response to Hurricane Katrina

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hapaboy, Sep 2, 2005.

  1. I can? Well, then what is the quote?
     
    #71     Sep 4, 2005
  2. Yes you can.

    Seek, and ye shall find....

     
    #72     Sep 4, 2005
  3. kent, you will never get a direct answer from Zzeal10. If you receive a semblance of one, it will be laced with the detritus of other issues designed to make you ask even more direct questions that he will again evade and obfuscate on ad infinitum.

    ZZZ doesn't get out much, and his social isolation drives him to do battle just for the human contact.

    This is what you're up against:

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    #73     Sep 4, 2005
  4. Evidently, whatever you're referring to, is one step beyond freedom of expression.

    Maybe it's better that you don't post it.
     
    #74     Sep 4, 2005
  5. You're probably right. Only time will tell.
     
    #75     Sep 4, 2005
  6. You are too lazy to exercise your power to seek, so you don't find.....so?

     
    #76     Sep 4, 2005
  7. jem

    jem

    With respect to this thread I believe zzz is negligent with respect to his contribution.

    In fact his explanation and twisting of facts was so disingenuous I belief he manifested a depraved heart.

    Consequently instead of mixing metaphors I have mixed legal frameworks.


    Finally, if the electorate were to be sued for negligence, I strongly believe they would have a strong case for summary judgment. As not rational voter could have have voted for Kerry it was not negligent to vote for Bush.
     
    #77     Sep 5, 2005
  8. Depraved heart! That's a killer, thanks! LOL!
     
    #78     Sep 5, 2005
  9. vitajex

    vitajex

    He could be referring to this line from Henry VI:

    The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

    http://www.spectacle.org/797/finkel.html

    -v
     
    #79     Sep 5, 2005
  10. Guardsmen 'played cards' amid New Orleans chaos: police official

    Sat Sep 3, 5:58 PM ET

    A top New Orleans police officer said that National Guard troops sat around playing cards while people died in the stricken city after Hurricane Katrina.

    New Orleans deputy police commander W.S. Riley launched a bitter attack on the federal response to the disaster though he praised the way the evacuation was eventually handled.

    His remarks fuelled controversy over the government's handling of events during five days when New Orleans succumbed to lawlessness after Katrina swamped the city's flood defenses.

    The National Guard commander, Lieutenant General Steven Blum, said the reservist force was slow to move troops into New Orleans because it did not anticipate the collapse of the city's police force.

    But Riley said that for the first three days after Monday's storm, which is believed to have killed several thousand people, the police and fire departments and some volunteers had been alone in trying to rescue people.

    "We expected a lot more support from the federal government. We expected the government to respond within 24 hours. The first three days we had no assistance," he told AFP in an interview.

    Riley went on: "We have been fired on with automatic weapons. We still have some thugs around. My biggest disappointment is with the federal government and the National Guard.

    "The guard arrived 48 hours after the hurricane with 40 trucks. They drove their trucks in and went to sleep.

    "For 72 hours this police department and the fire department and handful of citizens were alone rescuing people. We have people who died while the National Guard sat and played cards. I understand why we are not winning the war in Iraq if this is what we have."

    Riley said there is "a semblance of organisation now."

    "The military is here and they have done an excellent job with the evacuation" of the tens of thousands of people stranded in the city.

    The National Guard commander said the city police force was left with only a third of its pre-storm strength.

    "The real issue, particularly in New Orleans, is that no one anticipated the disintegration or the erosion of the civilian police force in New Orleans," Blum told reporters in Washington.

    "Once that assessment was made ... then the requirement became obvious," he said. "And that's when we started flowing military police into the theatre."

    On Friday, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin denounced the slow federal response as too little, too late, charging that promised troops had not arrived in time.

    "Now get off your asses and let's do something and fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country," the mayor said in remarks aired on CNN.

    Blum said that since Thursday some 7,000 National Guard and military police had moved into the city. President George W. Bush on Saturday ordered an additional 7,000 active duty and reserve ground troops.

    Blum said any suggestion that the National Guard had not performed well or was late was a "low blow".

    The initial priority of the Louisiana and Mississippi National Guard forces was disaster relief, not law enforcement, because they expected the police to handle that, he said.

    The police commander was unable to give a death toll for New Orleans.

    "We have bodies all over the city. A federal mortuary team was supposed to come in within 24 hours. We haven't seen them. It is inhumane. This is just not America."

    Riley said he did not even know how many police remained from a normal force of 1,700.

    "Many officers lost their homes or their families and there are many we have not heard from. Some officers could not handle the pressure and left. I don't know if we have 800 or thousands today."
     
    #80     Sep 5, 2005