The lefties sure are kicking and screaming a lot about the "birther" issue currently.

Savant · Apr 11, 2011

Wonder & curiosity = crack?

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You start the thread and then you ask WHY..... like a crack addict, doing whatever it takes to get his next fill ..
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Lucrum · Apr 11, 2011

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In 1961 birth announcements were published in the 2 newsppapers from records at the DOH. In othwer words, no one had to go to the newspapers and ask for a birth announcement...they were done automatically from public records.

However, a detailed investigation of the history and procedures used by Hawaiiâs municipal health department, and its relationship with the newspapers, shows that not only was it a matter of official policy that Obamaâs birth would have been announced in the paper regardless of where he was born, the information used to publish the announcements is not even confirmed through any eye-witness medical authority or hospital in the state.

Also, in 1961, the two newspapers shared the same address and facility which means they received only one copy of the same vital records information from the Department of Health. Therefore, the format and content of information used in public announcements were published identically by both papers, including any mistakes, omissions, order or context, and no investigation was carried out by the editors to determine if the information provided by the DOH was actually accurate. The two newspapers have long since collaborated into one organization

And then there is this.....
âDid anyone notice the announcements are not in any alphabetic order, or in order of birthdate? This is because, in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does. It appears that Obamaâs birth was registered in an office not used by any of the birth registrations offices who received birth certification from either Kapi-olani Medical Center, or Queens Medical Center which use two local offices near those facilities,â said Crosby.

He continued, âIt appears Obamaâs birth was registered with the satellite office near his grandparentâs home some distance from the offices nearest to and most used by the hospitals. This particular office was commonly used by indigenous people of Hawaii wanting to record births of children outside of the city. This is why the U.S. Department of Health created the Certificate of Live Birth template in 1959 with a check box indicating whether or not the child was born in the city limits and if the residence of the mother was a farm or not. It appears Obamaâs birth at least did not occur in the city of Honolulu and, at most, did not even occur in the state of Hawaii.â

In 1956, the National Vital Statistics Division of the U.S. Department of Health issued a revised template version of the âCertificate of Live Birthâ form to be used by state municipalities to record and medically verify births. Since Hawaii had not yet become a state, these revisions to the template would not be used in Hawaii until 1959. Therefore, birth records created after 1959 were subject to demographic clarifications and metrics prescribed by the federal authority of the U.S. Department of Health, not the state of Hawaii.

âThis also explains why Obamaâs birth announcements appear in the succession of announcements where and when they do. His alleged âCertification of Live Birthâ is not approved by any federal authority as an official source of demographic data or medical verification of his birth. It is merely a record of birth registration. Therefore, the order of printing of announcements in the local papers comes directly from the list which is ordered based on the birth registration office location, not the chronological or alphabetical order of the medically verified birth.â

Crosby says the difference between a "medically verifiedâ live birth and a âbirth registrationâ are significant. A live birth is witnessed by a doctor, a birth registration is simply recorded by administrative authority without witnessing the birth. ...Continued at source: http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/final-report-obamas-birth-announcements.html

Note to the Obots: "When Obama was born in 1961, Hawaii had in effect the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program which it established in 1911 and which it terminated in 1972. Someone could under Act 96 get a certificate claiming a Hawaiian birth even if he was physically born in a foreign country by an adult or parent falsely claiming to the director of health that he was born in Hawaii when in fact he was born abroad." (http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/12/what-is-putative-president-obamas.html) and (http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/HawaiiPoliciesAndProcedures.htm)

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-research-final-report-obamas-birth.html
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I don't know whether I qualify as a full blown "birther" or not, I'll let the Obamabots decide for themselves. But the above post and other things like it is what gives me pause and makes me think that MAYBE just MAYBE Obama has something to hide.

pspr · Apr 11, 2011

Quote from Arnie:

In 1961 birth announcements were published in the 2 newsppapers from records at the DOH. In othwer words, no one had to go to the newspapers and ask for a birth announcement...they were done automatically from public records.

However, a detailed investigation of the history and procedures used by Hawaiiâs municipal health department, and its relationship with the newspapers, shows that not only was it a matter of official policy that Obamaâs birth would have been announced in the paper regardless of where he was born, the information used to publish the announcements is not even confirmed through any eye-witness medical authority or hospital in the state.

Also, in 1961, the two newspapers shared the same address and facility which means they received only one copy of the same vital records information from the Department of Health. Therefore, the format and content of information used in public announcements were published identically by both papers, including any mistakes, omissions, order or context, and no investigation was carried out by the editors to determine if the information provided by the DOH was actually accurate. The two newspapers have long since collaborated into one organization

And then there is this.....
âDid anyone notice the announcements are not in any alphabetic order, or in order of birthdate? This is because, in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does. It appears that Obamaâs birth was registered in an office not used by any of the birth registrations offices who received birth certification from either Kapi-olani Medical Center, or Queens Medical Center which use two local offices near those facilities,â said Crosby.

He continued, âIt appears Obamaâs birth was registered with the satellite office near his grandparentâs home some distance from the offices nearest to and most used by the hospitals. This particular office was commonly used by indigenous people of Hawaii wanting to record births of children outside of the city. This is why the U.S. Department of Health created the Certificate of Live Birth template in 1959 with a check box indicating whether or not the child was born in the city limits and if the residence of the mother was a farm or not. It appears Obamaâs birth at least did not occur in the city of Honolulu and, at most, did not even occur in the state of Hawaii.â

In 1956, the National Vital Statistics Division of the U.S. Department of Health issued a revised template version of the âCertificate of Live Birthâ form to be used by state municipalities to record and medically verify births. Since Hawaii had not yet become a state, these revisions to the template would not be used in Hawaii until 1959. Therefore, birth records created after 1959 were subject to demographic clarifications and metrics prescribed by the federal authority of the U.S. Department of Health, not the state of Hawaii.

âThis also explains why Obamaâs birth announcements appear in the succession of announcements where and when they do. His alleged âCertification of Live Birthâ is not approved by any federal authority as an official source of demographic data or medical verification of his birth. It is merely a record of birth registration. Therefore, the order of printing of announcements in the local papers comes directly from the list which is ordered based on the birth registration office location, not the chronological or alphabetical order of the medically verified birth.â

Crosby says the difference between a "medically verifiedâ live birth and a âbirth registrationâ are significant. A live birth is witnessed by a doctor, a birth registration is simply recorded by administrative authority without witnessing the birth. ...Continued at source: http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/final-report-obamas-birth-announcements.html

Note to the Obots: "When Obama was born in 1961, Hawaii had in effect the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program which it established in 1911 and which it terminated in 1972. Someone could under Act 96 get a certificate claiming a Hawaiian birth even if he was physically born in a foreign country by an adult or parent falsely claiming to the director of health that he was born in Hawaii when in fact he was born abroad." (http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/12/what-is-putative-president-obamas.html) and (http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/HawaiiPoliciesAndProcedures.htm)

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-research-final-report-obamas-birth.html
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That is about the most damning information I have seen about Obama's birth. Probably what the the Health Dept. director sees when looking at Obama's actual birth record on file in Hawaii is a form completed by his grandparents in an attempt to secure U.S. citizenship for their grandson even though he was born in Kenya as his other grandmother claims.

OBAMA, SHOW US THE DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR RESIGN!!!!

OPTIONAL777 · Apr 11, 2011

The dems ridicule people like Trump, Palin, Bachmann...because they know the inbreds will only like them more.

It is a dems wet dream to have Palin/Bachman/Trump get the nomination.

Can anyone take any of these people seriously?

Really, listen to any of them, and ask yourself...what realistic, adult, well thought solutions do any of them have?

Few of these birther candidates get their fact straight, their entire agenda is attack Obama...not seriously presenting workable solutions.

Speaking of solutions, since the November election of last year, what how many jobs have the republicans/baggers who came into power created?

The problems are obvious, but we didn't reach the problems we have with the Obama election, or Bush election...the problems are system and will take time, and will require all Americans, yes...all Americans to work together to find workable solutions.

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AK Forty Seven · Apr 11, 2011

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Note to the Obots: "When Obama was born in 1961, Hawaii had in effect the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program which it established in 1911 and which it terminated in 1972. Someone could under Act 96 get a certificate claiming a Hawaiian birth even if he was physically born in a foreign country by an adult or parent falsely claiming to the director of health that he was born in Hawaii when in fact he was born abroad."]
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Just 1 lie has to be spotted to know its all bullshit.Whats listed above is a lie and the Hawaii health dept has said so

AK Forty Seven · Apr 11, 2011

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His alleged âCertification of Live Birthâ is not approved by any federal authority as an official source of demographic data or medical verification of his birth. It is merely a record of birth registration.
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Another proven lie

Gabfly1 · Apr 11, 2011

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I don't know whether I qualify as a full blown "birther" or not...
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Nuff said. You are. Hope that clarifies.

Lucrum · Apr 11, 2011

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Nuff said. You are. Hope that clarifies.
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I wonder if they'll put that on my tomb stone.

I wonder if I can find my own BC.

I wonder if my wife is going to be horny later tonight.

I wonder if I should have a third beer.

I wonder if I should see whats on TV.

I wonder...

Ricter · Apr 11, 2011

On a related note, I found a huge website, full of damning information, that the moon landing never happened--it was faked.

Lucrum · Apr 11, 2011

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a futile qwest to fix stupidity?
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Did you mean quest? Or is "qwest" part of your own "stupidity"?