The last 18 yrs the s@P has basically had 1 down yr in 2008. Pandemic 2020 was up 18%.

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by SammyJ, Apr 3, 2021.

  1. I would like to see this:

    1. How much money has the Fed printed each year over the last 18 years.

    2. How much has the market gone up on average over the last 18 years.

    Compare the two.
     
    #11     Apr 3, 2021
  2. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    The one Fed has going is that there is really
    No alternative on horizon to displace dollar and world reserve currency. So party might go for much longer.
     
    #12     Apr 3, 2021
  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    11percent compounding. Doesn’t take heroics when multiplied with time.
     
    #13     Apr 3, 2021
  4. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    You give the Fed too much credit.

    Looking at calendar year returns since 1950. There have only been 3 really bad periods for the S&P.

    1973/74
    2000/01/02
    2008

    Two of those have been quite recent, during Greenspan and post Greenspan.

    The next nasty downturn, which might happen soon will be the Feds fault again.

    There were no really big US speculative bubbles between 1930 and 1999. But Japan did have a really big one in 1989.

    Since 1999 the US has had 2 big speculative bubbles that already popped and a 3rd even bigger one which we are in now that will inevitably pop again.
     
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    #14     Apr 3, 2021
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  5. 7out

    7out

    It sounds great that you had $65k available to you 30 years ago but all in all it's just a 12% per annum gain compounded over 31 years. For the majority of people in their 20-30's putting aside $65k is difficult because that's when you start (to raise) a family and buy a house. As you get over that hurdle you realize you're now in your 50's and putting/locking those funds aside for your 80's and beyond almost loses its value as you'll become too old to enjoy that money.

    If you have $65K available to you at the younger years that is a great strategy - but one that can easily be duplicated by buying homes/condos and renting them out. The problem is most don't (have the excess funds) and need to budget current lifestyle vs retirement.

    PS edit: to put things in perspective, that $65k in 1990 probably has a present value of $350K (today). Tough sum for people to put aside and not touch for 30 years.
     
    #15     Apr 3, 2021
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  6. destriero

    destriero


    Dozu. You live in Trenton Bro. You couldn't accumulate two mil if you lived 1000 years. You're allergic to money.
     
    #16     Apr 3, 2021
  7. LMAO
     
    #17     Apr 3, 2021
  8. iprph90

    iprph90

    An indirect response:

    Source: Optuma.

    A dollar invested in gold in 2000 would now be worth about $6.82. That same dollar in the S&P 500 would be worth about $2.34. Gold delivered gains that were 2.9 times larger than the index.
     
    #18     Apr 3, 2021
  9. SammyJ

    SammyJ

    I live in Compton !!!!. You bring you ashy self down here you won’t be leaving . You’ll be somebody’s bitch.
     
    #19     Apr 3, 2021
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    I heard about Compton once in a song. But I hear Trenton has a few shady bits as well.

     
    #20     Apr 3, 2021