The Israeli conflict in a nutshell

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, May 13, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Most of the rockets the Iron Dome stops are Iranian. They have been launched from Syria, Iran and other locations.

    If the U.S. does not fund the Iron Dome so Israel has a degree of safety from these continual missile attacks then Israel will have no option than to go actively on the offensive to hunt down & eliminate these missiles at their source -- including any of the nuclear or chemical material that can be put in the warheads.

    Funding the Iron Dome is basically maintaining peace in the region. If the U.S. does not fund this defensive shield then we should prepare for the impending violent regional conflict.
     
    #161     Sep 22, 2021
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    source?

    and we have a defense spending bill for Israel's Santa Claus list. No reason it should be part of the continuing resolution funding bill. Where's the funding for Palestine's iron dome btw?
     
    #162     Sep 22, 2021

  3. I doubt it shoudl be $1 billion for a country the size of Israel... there is a lot of pork in that value for israel which is overbloated. To say we need to over pay for Israel's protection so they dont go and attack everyone and start WWIII sounds like hypberole...
     
    #163     Sep 22, 2021
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    To be fair, that iron dome is mostly all US made so the money is basically a stimulus for defense contractors.

    What I will say about giving money to Israel is Israel provides health insurance for all Israelis and we don’t! It’s nuts for us to give anything to a country that can afford universal healthcare when we don’t even do that here.
     
    #164     Sep 22, 2021

  5. But Israel is not paying for it so we are subsidzing our own defense contractors.. it is not the same as selling militayr equipment to Israel v. paying for it all ourselves
     
    #165     Sep 22, 2021
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    Totally. That’s why I called it a stimulus for defense contractors. We get absolutely nothing out of it.
     
    #166     Sep 22, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Will someone please think of the poor defense contractor employees.
     
    #167     Sep 22, 2021
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #168     Nov 7, 2021
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #169     Dec 13, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...m-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/5141/2022/en/

    Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

    Our report reveals the true extent of Israel’s apartheid regime. Whether they live in Gaza, East Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank, or Israel itself, Palestinians are treated as an inferior racial group and systematically deprived of their rights. We found that Israel’s cruel policies of segregation, dispossession and exclusion across all territories under its control clearly amount to apartheid. The international community has an obligation to act

    Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General

    “There is no possible justification for a system built around the institutionalized and prolonged racist oppression of millions of people. Apartheid has no place in our world, and states which choose to make allowances for Israel will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Governments who continue to supply Israel with arms and shield it from accountability at the UN are supporting a system of apartheid, undermining the international legal order, and exacerbating the suffering of the Palestinian people. The international community must face up to the reality of Israel’s apartheid, and pursue the many avenues to justice which remain shamefully unexplored.”

    Amnesty International’s findings build on a growing body of work by Palestinian, Israeli and international NGOs, who have increasingly applied the apartheid framework to the situation in Israel and/or the OPT.

    For Palestinians, the difficulty of travelling within and in and out of the OPT is a constant reminder of their powerlessness. Their every move is subject to the Israeli military’s approval, and the simplest daily task means navigating a web of violent control

    The international response to apartheid must no longer be limited to bland condemnations and equivocating. Unless we tackle the root causes, Palestinians and Israelis will remain locked in the cycle of violence which has destroyed so many lives

    “Israel must dismantle the apartheid system and start treating Palestinians as human beings with equal rights and dignity. Until it does, peace and security will remain a distant prospect for Israelis and Palestinians alike.”
     
    #170     Feb 13, 2022