The Iraq "Civil War" -

Idiots like sam give women a bad name... please disregard her stupidities.

 

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December 26, 2006

SouthAmerica: The kangaroo court that the United States did set up on the green zone has shot down the appeals of the ousted dictator’s bid to overturn his death sentence.

It is interesting how the US government still is referring to the Malik government that they installed in the Green Zone as the government of Iraq – the sectarian civil war that is raging all over Iraq says a different story.

What Americans can’t grasp is that from the point of view of the Iraqi people and also the rest of the Arab world: Saddam Hussein is the legitim leader of that country, and not the illegal government that the US have been trying to put in place in the green zone.

Saddam Hussein and the members of his government are the ones with real authority in Iraq – and their reinstatement into power might be the only way out of Iraq for the US occupational forces.

The current Boston Herald article said: “Iraq’s political leadership has indicated it won’t block the hanging. For security reasons, it reportedly won’t be a public event, but no plans have been released.”

Iraq is a country in the middle of a sectarian civil war and bombings and carnage is a daily event in Iraq. But the government that the United States installed in the green zone after they created a kangaroo court to stage the trial of Saddam Hussein and make sure they convicted him – these "Cowards" don’t even have the guts of showing to the Iraqi people the hanging of Saddam Hussein.

Why they don’t want to show the hanging of Saddam Hussein live on television for Iraqis to see it?

Because not only the Iraqis would see Saddam’s hanging, but also the entire Arab world.

The message of Saddam Hussein’s hanging to the other leaders of the world is: get your nuclear weapons as fast as you can or some day what has happened to Saddam Hussein also will happen to you - massage to Iran and so on....

The United States does not attack countries armed with nuclear weapons such as North Korea and Pakistan – the US attacks only easy targets such as Iraq.

The American public and the American mainstream media has not catch on as yet, because they can’t connect the dots to save their lives.

The United States justified the attack against Afghanistan because Osama Bin Ladden and Al Qaeda were hiding in that country – in the way the United States overthrew the Taliban which was the legitim government of Afghanistan at that time.

Today Americans have forgotten that Osama Bin Ladden and Al Qaeda caused the destruction in the United States in 9/11 – and as the United States sink deeper and deeper in quicksand in Iraq – Osama Bin Ladden and Al Qaeda are laughing about the United States from their new safe haven – in Pakistan.

Osama Bin Ladden must be laughing of the United States – since he coordinated the attack inside United States soil killing almost 3,000 people in the US in 9/11 – and the United States went after Saddam Hussein instead and even arranged for his hanging – Saddam Hussein an archenemy of Osama Bin Ladden and Al Qaeda.

It is “PATHETIC” – if anyone on his right mind had written a similar story most reasonable people would say that that was a silly and impossible story – since intelligent people would never do such a thing.

But that is the real story of George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Ladden.

A real Pathetic story!



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“Iraqis split on impact of Saddam’s hanging”
By Jules Crittenden
Boston Herald City Editor
Wednesday, December 27, 2006


Saddam Hussein could finally share the fate of thousands upon thousands of his own victims and hang within a month, after an Iraqi appeals court shot down the ousted dictator’s bid to overturn his death sentence.

But what Saddam’s death will mean for Iraq in its volatile state is unpredictable, observers say, and Iraqis are divided over whether Saddam should take the last drop.

“We are very happy,” said Riyah Abdul Sattar in Shiite Sadr City. “We will get rid of him for sure.” But in Saddam’s Sunni hometown of Tikrit, Saad Khelil said, “It is a political verdict that has no relation to law or justice.”

But one Boston-area Iraqi-American, requesting anonymity, said, “This cycle needs to be stopped. In what way will we be different, if we perpetuate this? It’s not going to right any wrongs.”

Saddam was condemned to hang last month for the 1982 murder of 148 Shiites in Dujail following an alleged plot to assassinate him. He is now on trial for genocide in the murder of 180,000 Kurds in the late 1980s.

Saddam’s hanging “must be implemented within 30 days,” said appellate judge Aref Shahin. “From tomorrow, any day could be the day of implementation.”

The White House called the ruling a milestone in Iraq’s efforts “to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law.”

Iraq’s political leadership has indicated it won’t block the hanging. For security reasons, it reportedly won’t be a public event, but no plans have been released. Saddam is being held in a U.S. military prison near Baghdad’s airport. The elected Iraqi government uses one of Saddam’s old death houses in a Baghdad prison for its executions.

John Pike at GlobalSecurity.org said he is concerned about the potential for any incident such as Saddam’s execution and retaliatory attacks to cause “a generalized escalation that would put an extra zero in the death rate ... All it’s going to take is one more infamy or escalation, and it could fly off the handle.”

But Reva Bhalla of Stratfor.com, a private intelligence analysis firm, said she expects only an isolated spike in violence. “They are obviously going to react. But the purpose the attacks is not in the name of Saddam anymore.”

James Walsh of MIT’s Securities Studies Program agreed. “In some ways it’s old news,” he said about Saddam’s pending execution. “What worries Iraqis in Baghdad today is not whether Saddam is going to get executed. It’s whether they can go to the market and get home alive.”

The Associated Press and O’Ryan Johnson contributed to this report.



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“Iraqi court upholds Saddam death sentence”
Reuters – December 26, 2006


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - An Iraqi appeals court on Tuesday upheld a ruling that Saddam Hussein should hang for crimes against humanity and said the sentence should be carried out in the next 30 days.

"Our role has ended here. Now it is up to the executive authority to carry out the sentence," the head of the Iraqi High Tribunal, Aref Abdul-Razzaq al-Shahin, told a news conference in Baghdad.

"As far as we are concerned this is what the law says so the executive authority has an obligation to carry out the ruling within 30 days," he added.

The nine-judge appellate court also upheld death sentences for Saddam's half-brother, Barzan al-Tikriti, and former judge Awad al-Bander, who were also sentenced on November 5 with Saddam to death for crimes against humanity over the killings of 148 Shi'ites in the 1980s.

All should be carried out within 30 days, al-Shahin said.

The appeals court recommended tightening the sentence for former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan, who had been sentenced to life in prison, saying he should also be executed.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a member of the Shi'ite majority persecuted under Saddam's Sunni-minority rule, has said he wants the execution to be carried out before the end of the year, drawing criticism from human rights groups for appearing to prejudge the court.

U.N. human rights experts have called on Iraq's government not to carry out the death sentence, saying Saddam's trial was seriously flawed.

Saddam is facing charges of genocide against ethnic Kurds in a military campaign in Kurdistan in the 1980s.

If Saddam is executed then the charges against him in that case will be dropped, but the trial against his six co-defendants will continue.


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Im not about to justify any particular behaviour, but saddam, a man we all 'suppose" tortured or killed thousands, is to be executed-under the benevolent and righteous action of the (ahem) iraqi court.


Dubya, who sighn'ed the death warrants of multitudes, people whose "guilt or innocence " he was convinced of, the most capital punishment man to have existed in any variety of legitimate government since henry the 8th, (or the chinese, to be fair) is , or somehow should be, given any number of corporate links('it smells like money to me', gwb, )is entirely innocent of anything, and everything.

Saddam, no matter what, will go down in history as a true beleiver, a true patriot to his nation.

Something dubya couldn't accomplish with a million years of bullshit propaganda.


It occurs to me, so many who support death penalties, have never witnessed one first hand.

 

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December 27, 2006

SouthAmerica: There is an international organization – maybe Amnesty international – that compiles a list and ranks every year the worst leaders around the world – in 2002 they had ranked Saddam Hussein number 13 on that list.

What that means is that in March 2003 when the United States attacked Iraq to depose Saddam Hussein at that moment there were 12 other country leaders who were worse than Saddam.

In 2002 long before the United States started the Iraq war I mentioned in one of my articles that there was nothing Saddam Hussein could do to stop an US attack since the decision to attack Iraq had already been made – the weapons of mass destruction BS was only the excuse that they needed to nail Saddam Hussein.

And I am not surprised that Saddam Hussein was found guilt by the “kangaroo court” that the United States did set up on the green zone in Iraq.

The only problem is that if Saddam is guilt of using some kind of chemical weapon to kill people during the Iraq/Iran war, then Iraq’s accomplice on that endeavor is also guilt since they did supply the chemicals and the information where to shoot the weapons loaded with these poisonous chemicals. And if I remember correctly the Reagan administration was helping Saddam Hussein at that time to achieve his chemical weapons attack goals against Iran and the Kurds by default.

Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were probably involved in that entire affair and they knew what Saddam Hussein was up to, and the United States had not only the receipts related to the sell of these chemical weapons, but also the US supplied Saddam Hussein with satellite information regarding movement and location of Iranian troops at that time.

Over the years The New York Times have documented this connection between Saddam Hussein and its American government partners. If Saddam Hussein is guilt and it will be hang in the next 30 days, then the international court in the Hague should investigate and follow up by rounding up all Americans involved with the Saddam Hussein government at that time – the accomplices of Saddam Hussein who supplied Saddam with the chemical weapons, and also the information where to fire the chemical weapons and kill hundreds of people.

It is ironic that Saddam Hussein was found guilt by a “kangaroo court” set up by his accomplices regarding the use of chemical weapons – Saddam is being used as a scapegoat for that entire affair.

For the last 4 years I thought that the United States had attacked Iraq to depose Saddam Hussein and take control of Iraq’s oil.

But now I started having my doubts about the United States real intentions in that area of the world – I know that the Bush administration’s incompetence and stupidity it is beyond anyone’s imagination. This crew is reaching a new low, after a new low, and there is no limit to their incompetence and stupidity.

Today we know for a fact that if anything Saddam Hussein can be considered a moderated in that area of the world, and it does not make sense to hang Saddam Hussein since he might be the only way out of Iraq for the United States – out of the mess in Iraq and in Mess-opotamia.

If the United States let its puppets on the green zone hang Saddam Hussein – then the American people should start asking for the heads of all Americans who were also involved in the crimes that they accused Saddam Hussein of committing against the Kurds and also the Iranian army.

Now that the kangaroo court in the green zone gave a guilt verdict to Saddam Hussein for his crimes in using chemical weapons in the 1980’s – then I realized how guilt the United States also is in relation to the use of the chemical weapons by Saddam Hussein's army in the 1980's when they
committed international crimes.


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December 29, 2006

SouthAmerica: NBC television announced that Saddam Hussein will be hanged by this coming Sunday, but the US will not allow the hanging to be seen on live television for the entire world to see it.

Today Saddam Hussein is the top leader of the Arab world and look what is happening to him – the big lesson for most countries around the world is if you don’t have nuclear weapons there is a chance you will end up like Saddam Hussein.

In the meantime Osama Bin Ladden is laughing of the American decision to hang Saddam Hussein – and Osama bin Ladden knows that the United States can’t do anything about it since Osama Bin Ladden is being protected by Pakistan – a country armed with an arsenal of nuclear weapons.

As long Osama Bin Ladden is hiding in Pakistan he is untouchable by the United States military, and the United States is completely impotent in that regard - and the US it can’t do anything about it.

PS: And the worse part of this fiasco is that when the US manages to hang Saddam Hussein most Americans will have the feeling of revenge and of mission accomplished regarding 9/11 - even though Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with that attack on US soil.


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I'm content to suggest, your posts re; this matter are largely on the money SA.

The only minor quibble, is you seem to be suggesting OBL is still alive, ive seen nothing contextually in this matter to suggest that may be the case.

The timing here reeks (as usual) of predetermined manifest destiny policy, a fa'it accompli'e,(hey, i dont speak french, ok, you know what it means) which , right now, looks like amounting to sweet stuff all for the iraqi's, or anyone else.

Its nice the admin is paying attention in africa though, a decade too late, again.

 

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December 29, 2006

SouthAmerica: Saddam Hussein’s hanging raises a lot of questions around the world regarding the United States and the US disregard for international organizations such as the International Court at the Hague and also international law.

The question is: Why Saddam Hussein was tried by a Kangaroo court in Iraq which was set up by the United States instead of a real trial at the International Court at the Hague?

Before Saddam Hussein’s trial started in Iraq everybody already knew what the outcome was going to be – and every time the trial was not going according to plan the United States changed the hanging judge to stage the trial accordingly to the US script.

Why the United States did not want Saddam Hussein’s trial to happen at the International Court at the Hague?

Because of one inconvenient truth: first, the United States would have less leverage at such a trial and a lot of dirty business that happened between Saddam Hussein’s regime and the United States during the 1980’s would have made headlines around the world. And the United States might have been implicated as an important partner in Saddam Hussein’s crimes when his government used chemical weapons against the Iranian army and the Kurds killing thousands of people.

Second, the United States would lose control of the timing when Saddam Hussein would be killed. And the United States would not been able to use Saddam Hussein’s hanging as a prop – Americans love staged symbolisms such as the staged downfall of Saddam Hussein’s statue, or the fiasco “Mission Accomplished” and so forth.

The Bush administration is so lost in the fiasco in Iraq – and they have not grasped as yet that Iraq is engulfed in a nasty sectarian civil war that has been spinning completely out of control for a long time.

But the Bush administration will try to use the Saddam Hussein hanging as one of these staged moments that they will call as a turning point in the Iraq conflict. By the way, according to US government turning point count this will be turning point number 666.

Saddam Hussein’s very rushed hanging will happen just in time and before 12 midnight of December 31, 2006 - because the Bush administration needs to say that Saddam Hussein belongs to the past, and 2007 is the beginning of a new era for Iraq and the Middle East.

After all these months of brainstorming regarding Iraq this is probably the best plan the Bush administration could cook up to try to fix the mess in MessOPotamia.



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“George W. Bush voted villain-of-year in US survey”
From correspondents in Washington
The Australian – December 30, 2006


IT has been many months since George W. Bush topped the polls, but the US President has outflanked both Osama bin Laden and former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to seize the dubious honour of the ultimate villain of 2006.

…Asked to name the candidate that first came to mind for "biggest villain of the year", Bush won by a landslide, with 25 per cent, followed by bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader, in second place with 8 per cent.

Rounding out the top five villains were Saddam, who is awaiting execution, with 6 per cent; Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, 5 per cent, and North Korean leader Kim Jong-il, 2 per cent – from the three countries Mr Bush once designated as the "Axis of Evil."…



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“Saddam’s lawyers say U.S. told them he is no longer in American custody”
By Associated Press
Friday, December 29, 2006


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Saddam Hussein will be executed no later than Saturday, said an Iraqi judge authorized to attend his hanging, while the former dictator’s lawyers said he had been transferred from U.S. custody.

The physical hand-over of Saddam to Iraqi authorities was believed to be one of the last steps before he was to be hanged, although the lawyers’ statement did not specifically say Saddam was in Iraqi hands.

“A few minutes ago we received correspondence from the Americans saying that President Saddam Hussein is no longer under the control of U.S. forces,” according to the statement faxed to The Associated Press.

Munir Haddad, a judge on the appeals court that upheld Saddam’s death sentence, said he was ready to attend the execution.

“All the measures have been done,” Haddad said. “There is no reason for delays.”

In Baghdad, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has signed Saddam’s death sentence, a government official said. The official, who refused to be identified by name because he was not authorized to release the information, said that Iraqi authorities were not yet in control of Saddam.

“We will get him when the execution is going to be carried out,” said the official, who refused to give other details.

The discrepancy could not be explained.

The defense team statement called on “everybody to do everything to stop this unfair execution.”


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December 29, 2006

SouthAmerica: It is amazing to me how current United States foreign policy keeps reaching new lows all the time – it will become a symbol of complete incompetence for future generations to study.

It is ironic, but finally George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will be right for a change. Since with the death of Saddam Hussein in Iraq finally the new Sunni leader of Iraq will be "Osama Bin Ladden."

With Saddam Hussein out of the picture – the new Sunni leader of Iraq is:
Osama Bin Ladden and his group Al Qaeda.

And that is the ultimate “Mission Accomplished” by the Bush administration.

I hope the American public has a minimum of common sense to be able to grasp this transfer of leadership and power in Iraq.

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December 30, 2006

SouthAmerica: Tonight I did watch on television on various channels all the material that the American mainstream media had prepared to broadcast on the day of Saddam Hussein’s execution.

They interviewed all kinds of experts and Iraqis who hated Saddam Hussein and in the entire night only the BBC did broadcast a feature that gave an honest picture of what really happened - when they broadcasted the BBC interview of former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark.

Ramsey Clark repeated what I have been saying all along that Saddam Hussein was convicted by a Kangaroo court, which was set up by the United States and when the trial did not go according to the US scripted plan they just changed the judge.

Ramsey Clark said that Saddam Hussein has become a symbol to what happens to you if you defy the United States and don’t want to play ball according to US rules of the game.

The entire world from now on should be sympathetic and should not give a hard time to countries such as North Korea, and Iran because they want to protect themselves against US aggression by developing nuclear weapons.

By the way, this is a lesson not only for Iran or North Korea – this is a lesson to most countries around the world that have a chance to produce such weapons including Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, Japan, Brazil, Argentina, and many other countries around the world.

The American mainstream media is very slow in connecting the dots – takes forever for them to figure out even the most obvious stuff.

I did not see the entire evening a single person mentioning that Osama Bin Ladden is the new Sunni leader of Iraq. And Al Qaeda has become the main Sunni organization in Iraq.

I will not be surprised if one of the Arab television stations in the Middle East broadcast a tape of Osama Bin Ladden announcing that he is the new Sunni leader in that country.

Osama Bin Ladden is a “legend” in the Sunni Arab world – I guess he has a fan club also among the Shiites from around the world – He is considered a warrior not only because of his accomplishments in Afghanistan against the Russians, but he is also responsible for the 9/11 attack in US soil.

In 1941 the Japanese attacked the US in Hawaii – a long way from the US mainland.

Osama Bin Ladden attacked the United States in New York City and Washington, D.C. and that is almost as if the US had been stabbed on its heart.

All Saddam Hussein did to defy the United States was to get his riffle and shoot few times in the air – But Osama Bin Ladden attacked the US with major airliners full with people who crashed against the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon.

Maybe because of George W. Bush background as a cowboy – he thought that Saddam Hussein’s defiance gesture with his riffle was more dangerous to the United States than Osama Bin Ladden’s airplanes that crashed against the buildings in New York City and Washington D.C.

Anyway, the rest of the world are not as slow as the American mainstream media and the entire world – and the Arab world for sure – knows that Osama Bin Ladden has replaced Saddam Hussein as the new Sunni leader of Iraq – with the compliments of the United States.

Now that the Sunnis in Iraq will be looking for the leadership of Osama Bin Ladden and Al Qaeda it will be easy for Osama Bin Ladden to consolidate his power on that area of the world.

I wonder how long it will take for the American public to catch on to the fact that Osama Bin Ladden is the new Sunni leader of Iraq.

The other major result of Saddam Hussein’s execution is that China and Russia must realize that Kim Jong Ill – the leader of North Korea – has the right to develop nuclear weapons to protect him and his country from foreign aggression and end up being executed by the order of some kangaroo court.

If I were in the shoes of Kim Jong Ill I would send a letter to the Russians and to the Chinese saying that he needs his nuclear weapons in North Korea because he does not want to end up like Saddam Hussein.

The Russians, the Chinese, and the rest of the world for that matter would agree with Kim Jong Ill and be sympathetic to his position.

By the way, please stop bothering us in North Korea about 6 party talk and so on.

I rest my case.


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Thank God there are only two more years of the m'f***er that has screwed with thousands of US lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. That son of a bitch, literally, has made this world unsafe and I hope he and his a'h**e cronies are sent to jail for their evil deeds/