The Iraq "Civil War" -

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SouthAmerica, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. Sam321

    Sam321

    Your math comes from propaganda. My math comes from fact. I can’t lie about Iraq’s population, but it’s automatic for AP and Reuters to report anything a single Arab Islamist “civilian” has to say and lie about.

    A lot of people die on a daily basis when you have millions of people living in a country. But propaganda is the wargame and it’s not difficult to blame heart attacks on sectarian violence. This stuff has to be independently corroborated and it never is. It’s always "hospital reports" gathered by groups having anti-American political agendas: in this case, the UN, & the Assistance Mission for Iraq

    This civil war shit has been hyped before we even invaded Iraq. A lot of people have their money on America’s failure. A lot of people certainly don’t want our hands on that oil.

    Iran wants us out so they can control Iraq. There’s absolutely no doubt Iran has turned up the juice in Shiia instigated violence in Iraq since last spring. They play the white-guilt infested liberal Western media like a fiddle. Right out of the Hezbolla play book.
     
    #111     Dec 4, 2006
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

     
    #112     Dec 4, 2006
  3. Sam, you woman... you are pathetic!! Accept that you were wrong and move on with your pathetic life.
     
    #113     Dec 5, 2006
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    December 7, 2006

    SouthAmerica: The Iraq Study Group made many recommendations yesterday regarding the situation in Iraq, but they did not suggest the only possible way out of that mess – the reinstatement of Saddam Hussein into power in Iraq.

    Everything else it is just wishful thinking.

    At this point, maybe even Saddam Hussein may not be able to stop the nasty sectarian civil war that has been spinning completely out of control in Iraq for a long time.

    It is interesting how the US government still is referring to the Malik government that they installed in the Green Zone as the government of Iraq – the sectarian civil war that is raging all over Iraq says a different story.

    What Americans can’t grasp is that from the point of view of the Iraqi people and also the rest of the Arab world: Saddam Hussein is the legitim leader of that country, and not the illegal government that the US have been trying to put in place in the green zone.

    Saddam Hussein and the members of his government are the ones with real authority in Iraq – and their reinstatement into power might be the only way out of Iraq for the US occupational forces.


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    #114     Dec 7, 2006
  5. Sam321

    Sam321

    Only women think a civil war is a slap fight, like you. Months after we cut and run in disgrace and Iran takes over, you’ll appreciate the true definition of a civil war.
     
    #115     Dec 9, 2006
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    December 10, 2006

    SouthAmerica: Now it is Saddam Hussein’s turn - the US can arrange for Saddam Hussein to escape from prison, since Saddam Hussein would be the last hail Mary play in Iraq – before the US occupational troops starts leaving that country.

    This week the talking heads on television were saying that the US government will abandon the Sunnis completely, and will concentrate only in dealing with the Shiites and Kurds that in total they make up to 80 percent of the population in Iraq.

    The Sunnis are going to be left out in the cold according to the US political analysts – in another words the Sunnis have nothing to lose if they continue fighting the sectarian civil war in Iraq as long as it takes until they get a fair deal.

    The other Sunni countries in the area, at this point they have to help the Sunnis on all their efforts because they also have a lot to lose on this deal.

    If anything the sectarian civil war in Iraq it will keep going up a notch until …..

    Today, The New York Times run a front-page story “Iraqis near deal on distribution of oil revenues,” – The only problem is that nobody else cares about the Constitution, of any other agreements drafted by the green zone government, since the Constitution, and all these agreements apply only to the area that Americans refer to as the green zone.

    Outside of the green zone there is a sectarian civil war spinning completely out of control – and the rest of the country could care less about what these guys are doing inside the green zone.

    It does not matter how the US government want to spin the news – we all know they are just BS and nothing else – the rest of the world knows that the reality is “Iraq is in the middle of a sectarian civil war that is spinning completely out of control.

    It is Pathetic the article published by The New York Times – OK guys – Time Out (like in basketball) take a break from your sectarian civil war – Why? - because we have a signed piece of paper an agreement about sharing the oil revenue.

    You guys are not buying that – It was worth trying it anyway - then OK go back to your sectarian civil war.



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    “Saddam's nephew escapes Iraqi prison”
    AP – Associated Press
    December 10, 2006


    BAGHDAD, Iraq - A nephew of Saddam Hussein serving a life sentence for financing insurgents and possessing bombs escaped from prison Saturday in northern Iraq with the help of a police officer, authorities said.

    Sectarian attacks killed at least 20 people, including five who died in a suicide car bombing outside a Shiite shrine in Karbala, police said. Officers also found 39 bullet-riddled bodies in Baghdad that apparently were victims of revenge killings by Sunni Arabs and Shiites.

    The escape by Saddam's nephew underlined one of the problems facing the U.S. military as it tries to train enough Iraqi security personnel so U.S. troops can go home: the ability of Sunni Arab insurgents and Shiite militiamen to infiltrate Iraqi police forces.

    Ayman Sabawi, son of Saddam's half brother Sabawi Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti, escaped from a prison 45 miles west of the northern city of Mosul in the afternoon with the help of a policeman, said a local police commander, Brig. Abdul Karim al-Jubouri.

    Brig. Abdul-Karim Khalaf, an Interior Ministry spokesman, confirmed the escape but declined to discuss any details.

    Sabawi, who was arrested in May 2005 by U.S. and Iraqi forces near Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, was convicted of illegally crossing the border from Syria and sentenced to 15 years in prison late last year by an Iraqi court. He was sentenced to life in prison in an earlier case for possession of illegal weapons and manufacture of bombs.

    He "played a particularly active role in sustaining the terrorism by providing financial support, weapons and explosives to terrorist groups," Iraq's government said.

    In July 2005, the United States froze Sabawi's assets along with those of five other Saddam nephews, accusing them of providing funds to Iraq's Sunni Arab-dominated insurgency.

    Sabawi's father was captured in February 2005. Formerly the head of Saddam's intelligence service, al-Tikriti was No. 36 on a U.S. list of the 55 most-wanted members of Saddam's ousted regime.

    The suicide bomb attack occurred near the Al-Abbas shrine in Karbala, a Shiite holy city 50 miles south of Baghdad.

    The shrine's golden dome and minarets didn't appear damaged in video shown on Iraqi state TV, but the blast set many parked cars on fire in a nearby street. Two men with bloody faces could be seen running through heavy black smoke past the body of another victim.

    A main goal of Sunni Arab insurgent groups such as al-Qaida in Iraq has been to spark sectarian violence by attacking sites revered by the country's Shiite majority.

    In Baghdad, some of the worst violence was in a Sunni pocket of Hurriyah, a mixed neighborhood. Witnesses said Shiite militiamen entered the area after Sunnis warned the few Shiites living there to leave or be killed. Heavy machine gun fire was heard and three columns of black smoke rose into the sky, the witnesses said on condition of anonymity out of concern for their own safety.

    Mohamed al-Askeri, a Defense Ministry spokesman, said some people were chased from their homes, but Iraqi security forces drove off the attackers, handed out food to displaced people and persuaded most to return to their homes. But "others are still frightened," he said.

    Adnan al-Dulaimi, who heads a large Sunni bloc in Parliament, went on a Sunni-run TV station to demand protection for the district's Sunnis. "We appeal to the government and U.S. forces to rescue Sunni families in Hurriyah who are facing killings and displacement by militias."

    The U.S. military, meanwhile, announced that two Marines were killed in combat in Anbar province, raising to 42 the number of U.S. troops who have died in Iraq this month. At least 2,930 have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003.

    Iraq's influential Association of Muslim Scholars and the country's largest Sunni Arab political party, the Iraqi Islamic Party, on Saturday condemned a deadly U.S. military attack the previous day in al-Ishaqi village in volatile Salahuddin province.

    The U.S. command said a ground raid and airstrike killed 20 insurgents, but local officials claimed at least 19 civilians died, including seven women and eight children.

    About 1,000 residents of the predominantly Sunni village of al-Ishaqi held a funeral for the 19 dead Saturday, shouting "Down with the occupiers," "Long live the resistance," and "There is no God but Allah."

    The Association of Muslim Scholars, a group of hard-line Sunnis that opposes the coalition, issued a statement alleging U.S. soldiers entered two Iraqi houses, shot 32 civilians to death, including women and children, and then blew up the buildings to make it look as if the victims died in a U.S. airstrike targeting insurgents.

    The Iraqi Islamic Party, part of a Sunni bloc that controls 44 of parliament's 275 seats, made a similar claim, calling the attack "a new massacre by the American occupiers."

    Last spring, a U.S. investigation cleared American soldiers of misconduct during a March 15 raid in al-Ishaqi in which Air Force planes destroyed a building believed to be hiding al-Qaida in Iraq insurgents. Villagers claimed soldiers killed 11 civilians before ordering for the airstrike.


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    #116     Dec 10, 2006
  7. what the heck are you talking about? You are surely suffering from PMS. You have denied that Iraq is in the midst of a civil war when in fact it is. When Iran will take over, it won't be a civil war, but a war, fought between Iraqis and Iranians. Stupid women like you don't even have the mental capacity to understand that. You are a shame to all women.
     
    #117     Dec 11, 2006
  8. Sam321

    Sam321

    You’re wrong, girlyman. Once Iran takes control of Iraq, the Sunnis and Kurds will fight for independence from the Shiia majority supported by Iran. Call it a civil war. Call it a revolutionary war. Call it a “war.” It will be far worse than this current pussy shit interpretation of a “civil war” invented by feminized propaganda journalism.
     
    #118     Dec 11, 2006
  9. Therefore using this logic the "Civil War" between the 'North' and the 'South' was not really a civil war either.
    (I never thought it was actually) More people die on the streets of US cities every year than in that fictitious "civil war".
     
    #119     Dec 11, 2006
  10. wow... sam.. you sound like a lesbian... maybe you are dickies daughter's partner?
     
    #120     Dec 12, 2006