The Inconvenient Truth About the Republican Party

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NeoTrader, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. and notrader the population of the USA in 1776 not including slaves seems about 2.5 million it says here. http://samyann.com/wp/2014/12/what-was-the-us-population-in-1776/

    life expectancy was maybe 42. very little of the land occupied. do you maybe think the scale of administration might change just a bit from ideas back then?
     
    #21     Apr 23, 2019
  2. NeoTrader

    NeoTrader

    More ad hominems... Once again... No base, no proof, no nothing... You people just can't help yourselves...
     
    #22     Apr 24, 2019
  3. NeoTrader

    NeoTrader

    No, I don't. Libertarianism acknowledges that there is no Nirvana in this world... And given that, we have to go for the best solution possible... Which is when individuals are the most free to create and compete without the state breathing on their necks every second of their lives and not subject to corrupt officials who produce nothing and mismanage the stolen money from those who do, with the false claim that they will organize society for all. Will bring about a perfect world? No, but it will be the best possible.(That's much more realistic than believing a group of self sacrificing "saints" from government will dedicate their lives to making everyone else's better, because they are such good "public servants").

    But if you think that what democrats and many many republicans have done in the last century, especially the last 3 or 4 decades has had satisfying results, I have no idea in what world you live in. Government spending and the debt simply grew and grew with very few pontual setbacks and americans today are not even close as free as they were many decades ago... Sure, there was a very good counterbalance from the private sector, who, despite the growing regulation and intervention, still managed to create valuable assets which directly and indirectly benefited the great part of the U.S. and the world's population (individuals will always want to get rich, no matter what, which generates this)... But that could have been a LOT better, had it not been for the continuous grow of government... And there are many examples of this.

    However, you will probably just continue with the ad hominems... That's OK... You have the right to do that. So be my guest and continue to be like your buddies...
     
    #23     Apr 24, 2019
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    A summary of this shit show of a thread and it’s starter:

    This whole thread is garbage all the way through. First it starts with a video claiming conservatives today are the same as republicans from 1860. A total fail.

    The video makes no mention of the fact that important votes on constitutional amendments and civil rights legislation were divided along geographical lines and party affiliation was not the determining factor.

    I suppose it would help if the poster knew American history better but still.

    Then the poster claims the constitution reflected an economic philosophy, it did not.

    Now the poster is lauding libertarianism and we, Americans, don’t know what is best for us. How did we ever get here without libertarianism?

    O my stars, there is no future if don’t just hand over our country to businesses and let them cheat, pollute, and pilfer.

    I don’t think so.
     
    #24     Apr 24, 2019
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Actually, as usual, you're the only one posting garbage. You consistently meet presented arguments with verbal skepticism devoid of any factual/source backup to your claims, as if we are to take you as the authority on every topic you decide to grace us with your presence on. I've seen this first hand, as I presented charts and statistics, only to be met with accusations of "superstition" (your go-to) and other horseshit that has no supporting data outside of anecdotal experience.
     
    #25     Apr 24, 2019
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    O boy, I read your data and the problem isn’t the data, it’s your analysis of the data.
     
    #26     Apr 24, 2019
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Libertarianism is a very attractive philosophy for political neophytes, since libertarinism has never been implemented anywhere, they can claim all the credit for all the good it can potentially do while not having to show any shortcomings. Basically these are right wingers who will vote for Trump and Bullshitsaro like clockwork while peddling theory to unsuspecting FB pundits.
     
    #27     Apr 24, 2019
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  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Of course it is. Only you have the proper analysis of any data.

    We might consider this a possibility if you have ever shown yourself to be well versed in anything. Sadly, you haven't. So you're just another blowhard on a message board.
     
    #28     Apr 24, 2019
  9. You're debating a double-digit-IQ teenager. You should know better. Interestingly, Tsing Tao can't seem to get enough of him.
     
    #29     Apr 24, 2019
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Lol. I well versed enough to know a bunch of bullshit when I read it.

    Your analysis of the fed’s response to the recession failed because your premise was flawed. You believed the fed acted in a wrong manner but they are mandated to act in a certain manner, regardless of what you think.

    I don’t care who thinks the fed can ignore its mandates, they can’t. They took on troubled assets and lowered rates because that is the playbook. You may not like the playbook but that is the go-to in deflationary environments and major recessions.

    So no, let’s not destroy the Fed because that would be stupid. And no let’s not hand it’s operations over to a computer with an algorithm you think is best because despite what you may believe your ideas are disastrous.

    Sorry if this bothers you but some of us lowly Americans that actually built businesses understand the need for stability in prices and flexibility in policy.
     
    #30     Apr 24, 2019