The Implications Of Schindler and VN

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Pa(b)st Prime, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. BJL

    BJL

    It means it's quite possible to beat the market in terms of risk/reward, but not possible to make 100% per annum over a sustainable periode without blowing up in the process.
     
    #71     Feb 18, 2008
  2. BJL

    BJL

    Just checked recently, but the TA trading systems I researched for my graduation thesis 10 years ago still produce the same results.

    Regarding your basic economic theory... you have to realise economic theory is just that.. theory, which doesn't quite work in the real world.

    As to supporting evidence. Quite a few succesfull CTA's out there that have pretty decent returns over a long period. And despite all the hocus pocus what they're doing isn't all that sophisticated. Sure, they change their systems but one never can be sure if performance improved or whether it was actually detrimental.
     
    #72     Feb 18, 2008

  3. What if real investors with real money take out much of that real money during the 17.9% drawdown?
     
    #73     Feb 18, 2008
  4. My guess is all major profitable traders with systematic approaches must have their individual edges.

    However, the whole game in financial markets, imo, is the question of How Fast one can Detect the degrading of the existing edge and How Well one can Polish it to identify/ meet any structural/ momentary changes in the long-run.
     
    #74     Feb 18, 2008
  5. I read Cutten's post and yours. You have a long way to go to reach his understanding...
     
    #75     Feb 18, 2008
  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    It seems we are on different wavelengths, let's leave it at that.
     
    #76     Feb 19, 2008
  7. I believe that it can be violated by degrees. Which leads us to the definition of an 'edge'.

    A while back, I had been thinking of doing a journal in which an index would be traded on a daily basis, 100% long or 100% short, and plot the results versus the index. Unfortunately, life got very busy.
     
    #77     Feb 19, 2008
  8. What do you think is gonna happen then, considering 65% of their allocation is in highly liquid bond, currency and interest rate futures?
     
    #78     Feb 19, 2008
  9. BJL

    BJL

    Bit rich from someone who's never traded in his life.

    Stick to your questionaires...
     
    #79     Feb 19, 2008
  10. I dont know about systems. My question is when a system shows a profit history or expectancy chart or whatever its called like the one above - would that chart be different if the investors did not choose to ride out the drawdown? To put it another way, was the system just lucky that it wasn't decimated by an emotional factor - the tolerance of its investors for losses/drawdowns?
     
    #80     Feb 19, 2008