Isn't that ironic, you people accuse Israel of being similar to Nazi Germany, accuse jews of stealing land, killing palestinians etc. The best "proof" you can come up with is garbage sites like aljazeera and goliath and scumbags like Daryl Smith. Yet you want me to provide confirmation of a very well established and virtually undisputed historical fact that jews were indeed purchasing land prior to 1947. OK, be my guest: Sir Moses Montefiore (1784-1885) made the first known land purchase: 10 hectares (1 hectare=2.5 acres) of orange groves in Jaffa (1855). Other private acquisitions followed, and by 1882, some 2,200 hectares had been purchased by Jews. ... Baron Benjamin (Edmond James) de Rothschild (1845-1934) enlisted in this cause after being petitioned by the leaders of Rishon Lezion, one of the First Aliya villages. His patronage embraced 12 settlements at all three levels of land redemption: purchase, reclamation and economically viable settlement. ... For this purpose, it established two central agencies. First was the Jewish National Fund (JNF), or Keren Kayemeth LeIsrael in Hebrew, founded on December 29, 1901, whose charter specified land purchase in Eretz Israel - redemption of the land - as the organization's sole pursuit. ... The second redemption agency founded by the Zionist Organization was the Palestine Land Development Company (PLDP), established in 1908 by Otto Warburg and Arthur Ruppin to purchase land for the JNF. Subsequently, an overseas fundraising mechanism known as Keren Hayesod was also established. ... Baron Edmond de Rothschild re-entered the field in 1923 by founding the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA), which carried on his work under his son, James Armand de Rothschild (1878-1957). By 1930, PICA had amassed 5,200 hectares in various parts of the country, on which it established 50 settlements ... The JNF, through the PLDC, purchased more than 70,000 hectares during the Mandate period, chiefly in the valleys - Jezreel, Zebulun, Jordan, Beit Shean, Huleh and Hefer - in the Haifa bay area and in the northern Negev. As the Mandate period went on, obstacles to the land redemption effort began to appear. The first impediments followed the 1929 Arab riots, when Arab political leaders pressured their co-nationals to desist from land transactions with the Jews, from which they had been profiting handsomely. Anyway, read the entire article: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern History/Centenary of Zionism/The Redeemers of the Land
No need to get all worked up. Thank you for the info. The total land purchased is only a very small fraction of the total state of Israel, correct? Are you disputing the displacement of palestinians, occupation of their land and killing them, by simply trashing the sources? What would you consider a reliable source that refers to those events? Are these statements wrong? None of it happened? *Three quarters of a million indigenous Palestinians displaced/dispossessed in 1947-48 *Israel occupied West Bank and Gaza in 1967 with more displacement and Israel takes effective control over 100 per cent of historic Palestine Is this wrong too? The Birth of Isreal http://www.raceandhistory.com/worldhotspots/Israel.htm or this http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2003/24453.htm#occ Is Israel operating without violating UN resolutions? re "occupied territories" displacement of residents, killings? Nuclear arms possession, disarmament? Ok maybe I should not ask, as it seems questioning anything about Israel, brings out a lot of anger in these forums. Did not mean to offend anyone.
I know some palestinians in the US. They tell of how they hated the British for moving them out of their homeland. They are also anti Semitic to the maximum. I let it slip that my dad was a Jew, being, at the time, very naive, and some of them turned on me like a pack of dogs. I read some history on the subject of the establishment of the Jewish state. Jews were in palestine buying property in the early 20th century. At one point the British laws were such that Arabs were not allowed to buy land but they could sell it and Jews were buying it. Those first Jews to go to Israel were very religious people who went there for religious reasons. The economy sucked , there was just nothing going on there and they mostly had to live on a stipend from their families elsewhere. I don't think the British and the palestinians were ever great allies or even liked each other at all and the palestinians in fact fought with hitler in WW2. After the war the British had a perfect right to do about whatever they wanted to do with palestinians due to the Allies winning the war in my book. So the Palestinians lost an area that they were essentially not ideveloping to any great extent. Now they are the eternally victimized pawns of the mullahs, big deal.
Twenty two arab countries - twenty two barbaric, corrupt, medieval dictatorships. If they ever get a chance to vote, they elect Hamas and Hezbollah. And they have the gall to criticize Israel. Unbelievable.
LOL you forgot and cannibalistic ones too. i am sure it will be used by you soon. you are a thief who stole and is trying his hardest to justify his theft. as far as i am concerned, you lost the argument. stop giving labels to everyone except yourself and admit to the crimes committed by the zionists.
there was no argument, "you're a nazi" is not an argument especially given a ton of evidence I provided proving otherwise. You're the one supporting terrorists and islamofascists bent on driving a neighboring nation into the sea, not the other way around. PS What part of "twenty two barbaric, corrupt, medieval dictatorships" do you disagree with?
the cannibalistic part! i happen to know that they r all vegetarians. you still did not answer my question...r u a zionist? in regard to the corrupt, barbaric and medieval shit, you are no different than a thief steals the contents of a house and when caught while carrying his loot, he starts creating execuses of why he did it. the islamo fascism shit and the threat of moslims that you jews invented to have us stupid americans fight your war against any country your israel perceives as an inconvenience, it will one day turn around and bite you in the ass. i see it as i see the market going up and down. your mr. faith, your mr. pearl, your mr. gafney, your mr. pipes, your aipac and the rest of the fifth column american zionists will be exposed for the crimes they committed when they created a cause to start a war that took the lives of thousands of our young men and that of iraqis.. islamo fascism? LOL
the cannibalistic part! i happen to know that they r all vegetarians. Good, so it's settled, you don't support cannibalistic regimes, you support totalitarian, barbaric, corrupt, medieval ones. you still did not answer my question...r u a zionist? Sure I did, my second post in this thread. in regard to the corrupt, barbaric and medieval shit, you are no different than a thief I am glad you don't disagree that they are corrupt, barbaric and medieval, there is still hope for you. We can also both agree they are not cannibalistic as it seems to be very important to you. the islamo fascism shit and the threat of moslims that you jews invented to have us stupid americans fight your war Nah, we americans fight our own stupid wars including the war in Iraq which I don't support. It's not our job to occupy and democratize fanatical, barbaric medieval savages. your mr. faith, your mr. pearl, your mr. gafney, your mr. pipes, your aipac and the rest of the fifth column american zionists American zionists happen to be predominantly democrats, strongly supporting Israel and its right to exist and just as strongly opposing the war in Iraq. Get a clue. PS Is that what you call an argument, a bunch of baseless, hysterical and angry nonsense completely devoid of facts and common sense? And I suppose that's what you call winning the argument - your suicidal islamofascistic buddies are not cannibals threfore you win and I lose, right? Way to go, kissmyassandmakeup
Good, so it's settled, you don't support cannibalistic regimes, you support totalitarian, barbaric, corrupt, medieval ones.. I am glad you don't disagree that they are corrupt, barbaric and medieval. We can also both agree they are not cannibalistic as it seems to be very important to you. no...i was just showing you how silly you are! you will continue on carrying stupid cliche against all of the world from anti semetic to, to self hating to barbaric to medival to what ever else you guys decide on introducing to the market to advance and justify your theft. simple! Nah, we americans fight our own stupid wars including the war in Iraq which I have never supported. It's not our job to occupy and democratize fanatical, barbaric medieval savages. nah, you american zionists have covered all of your bets...call it hedging if you like, you planted your own in the hard core repub. party as being the most conservative while planting others in the left to CLAIM to be standing for the freedom and liberty. if people scratched deeper the will be shocked to discover that there is one common, main, serious and stark denominator and agenda between the both of you so called libral and conservative american zionists...israel is above everything including the u.s. if one side overwhelms the other, you will come out and claim that you were always standing by that side. later on, you will work from within the winning side, not to advance the cause and the principals of the people who brought them to power but to advance your real, yet hidden cause...ISRAEL![/b] a bunch of baseless, hysterical and angry nonsense completely devoid of facts and common sense? And I suppose that's what you call winning the argument you forgot that my argument is also a totalitarian, barbaric, corrupt as well as medieval. by the way, i am not muslim, i was born a catholic. so my islamo fascism shit can help you better if you use it with someone who is pumped up and ready to go to whatever war your state (Israel) instructs you to promote.