The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, May 21, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    lol
    gwb-pharmashill

    talk about the data douchebag...
    natural immunity tests out to be far superior..

    you got a problem with that?

    and it showed how the WHO changed definitions... is that true or false?

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    #651     Sep 1, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So pushing undocumented stuff from Unherd -- which is notorious for spreading false information.

    Why don't you point to the actual claimed source of the information -- so it can be evaluated for scientific validity.
     
    #652     Sep 1, 2021
  3. UK data plus Israel in the article below

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    Israeli Data Show COVID Jab Is Failing in Over-50s

    In Israel, where vaccine uptake has been very high due to restrictions on freedom for those who don’t comply,4 data show those who have received the COVID jab are 6.72 times more likely to get infected than people with natural immunity.5,6,7

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08...than-50-who-die-from-covid-are-double-vaxxed/
     
    #653     Sep 1, 2021
  4. jem

    jem

    I did moron... that data from the study in Israel showed natural immunity to be far superior to vaccine immunity... We just discussed that here a week ago.

    do you read...or just go to the shill database and pick a troll response?


     
    #654     Sep 1, 2021
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  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    These Marxists don't want to admit that most of us are not anti vaccine. We are anti mandatory vaccine. Showing people who have died has nothing to do with my pointing that natural immunity is 13 times more effective than any vaccine. If you get the vaccine, that's fine. If you've had Kung Flu and survived as more than 99 percent who have had it have, then you have more immunity than any vaccine. If you've had Kung Flu and had a vaccine then you are even more immune. For some reason, these Marxists look at everything in a binary fashion. It may be because their feeble minds can only handle two scenarios at a time.
     
    #655     Sep 1, 2021
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  6. userque

    userque

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    #656     Sep 1, 2021
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  7. ph1l

    ph1l

    Close to herd immunity?
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...stimates-80-Americans-protected-COVID-19.html
     
    #657     Sep 3, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    #658     Sep 3, 2021
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Wow! This woman survived Covid.

    She was born during the Ottoman empire.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...y-recovers-from-covid-19-at-116-years-old?amp

    A woman from Turkey recovered from the coronavirus at 116 years old, making her the second-oldest person to survive the virus.

    The woman's son told the Demiroren news agency on Saturday that Ayse Karatay has been cleared of COVID-19 at Eskisehir City Hospital and has been moved to a normal ward, The Associated Press reported.

    "My mother fell ill at the age of 116 and stayed in the intensive care unit for three weeks... Her health is very good now and she's getting better," Ibrahim told the outlet.

    It is unclear when exactly Ayse's birthday is, as she was born during the Ottoman Empire, when birth records were not strictly kept, the AP noted.
     
    #659     Sep 4, 2021
  10. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/pfize...e-included-in-policy-discussions_3971383.html

    Pfizer Board Member: ‘Natural Immunity’ Against COVID-19 Needs to Be Included in Policy Discussions

    Former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who is also a Pfizer board member, noted that “natural immunity” gained from a prior COVID-19 infection needs to be included in discussions about virus-related policies and mandates.

    The balance of the evidence demonstrates that natural immunity confers a durable protection,” Gottlieb said during an Aug. 30 interview, referring to a landmark new preprint Israeli study that found that prior COVID-19 infection confers more protection against the virus than any of the vaccines. “It’s fair to conclude that.”

    Although Gottlieb said he would “be careful” about concluding whether natural immunity provides better protection against transmitting the virus, officials “should start assimilating that into our policy discussions.”

    “Natural infection confers robust and durable immunity,” he said, citing the Israeli study and others.

    However, whether natural immunity or vaccines are better than one another “isn’t that material” when it comes to policy discussions, Gottlieb said.
     
    #660     Sep 4, 2021
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