The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, May 21, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

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    #521     Aug 10, 2021
  2. @jem

    Strategy

    Knowing now that vaccines wane over time i and i planned to get vaccinated I would do so only when really dangerous Covid variant emerges ( hopefully not).This way i would expect to have strongest levels of antibodies at time when really needed with minimal risk.Also decision which one to chose would be more clear


    Similar to taking a trade when signal presents itself.
     
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    #522     Aug 10, 2021
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  3. jem

    jem

    my strategy too... other than the fact that my family and I like to travel a bit and I may be forced too vaccinate by next summer. (If they allow travel at that time.)


     
    #523     Aug 10, 2021
  4. In Iceland, 96% of females and 90% of males 16 years or older have received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine. Its vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world, makes it a particularly interesting place to look at the incidence and severity of breakthrough infections.

    What Iceland’s rising Covid-19 case count tells us about vaccine efficacy

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    The article ends with a quote below,-same can be said about unvaccinated,it's a spin


    That there are hardly any deaths accompanying the rising case count is a good sign. The data show that vaccinated people who are getting the virus are generally recovering without serious illness.

    https://qz.com/2044284/icelands-rising-covid-19-cases-demonstrate-vaccine-efficacy/





     
    #524     Aug 10, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As noted multiple times... .the increased case count in Iceland simply shows Iceland opened up for tourism on March 17th and lifted all local restrictions on July 1st. Rational people recognize this has a direct relationship to the rising cases. Context is important. The other important point is that the recent breakthrough cases are of the Delta variant.

    As stated by health officials in Iceland -- imagine how high the case rate would be if the vaccination level was not so high. 86.3% of the eligible population is fully vaccinated. As noted by Icelandic health officials there will be breakthrough cases when facing the Delta variant -- but nearly all of these cases have been mild (over 99%).
     
    #525     Aug 10, 2021
  6. Well, well, maybe because tourist who are vaccinated do not need to present negative PCR test

    Because those who are not vaccinated need to take one test spend 5 days in quarantine and then take another PCR test

    THE ARGUMENT THAT TOURISTS WITHOUT PROOF OF VACCINATION BRING COVID TO ICELAND IS WEAK,


    BULLSHIT METER READING GOES HIGH


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    #526     Aug 10, 2021
  7. With your help i just thought, vaccinated people can bring Covid to Iceland,i never expected this
     
    #527     Aug 10, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

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    #528     Aug 11, 2021
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    #529     Aug 11, 2021
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  10. Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.

    With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID.

    By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762



     
    #530     Aug 11, 2021