The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, May 21, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are pushing non-scientific COVDI-denier bullshiat again.
     
    #501     Jun 7, 2021
  2. jem

    jem

    you have been pushing that as part of your rules for radicals strategy of lies and bullshit for about year...


    (statistically speaking and using it to guide our concerns)
    Covid is real and its deadly for some of the high risk.
    you are such a spineless piece of shit.

    Are you still so ignorant you deny that science has now clearly stated that T cell immunity is real?


     
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    #502     Jun 7, 2021
  3. jem

    jem

    Today... the lying GWB let it slip that he implicitly believes in Natural Herd immunity...



     
    #503     Aug 9, 2021
  4. jem

    jem

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

    India and delta is what Natural Herd Immunity looks like in a very densely populated place like India with and inferior and overwhelmed medical system...

    Steep Up then a Steep down... Experts have been quoting saying that since they only have a very low vaccination rate that was herd immunity driving down that curve.

    So to all the morons stating there was no such thing as natural herd immunity.... you were morons.

    and note...

    Now Delta is probably twice as infectious as other variants... which is why you saw slower rises and slower falls in other countries curves... but so many looked so similar... pretty regardless of lockdowns and masks... Natural Herd Immunity in action...
     
    #504     Aug 9, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Good luck with your twisted assertion.

    Take a look at how 40% of those with natural infections never develop sufficient antibody immunity to stop reinfection — as noted in multiple studies.
     
    #505     Aug 9, 2021
  6. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Bullshit. Those studies have been proven false.
     
    #506     Aug 9, 2021
  7. jem

    jem

    you are idiot.. .who refuses to accept science which runs contrary to your narrative. (as most it does.)
    the healthier your immune system the less you need antibodies and the faster they wane.
    Your T cells and your killer T cells destroy the virus perhaps even before you need antibodies.

    Some of the studies have even shown T Cell cross immunity from previous corona viruses in lab tests.

    you are a sick lying vaccine only nazi.


     
    #507     Aug 9, 2021
  8. #508     Aug 10, 2021
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again there is T-cell response which reduced severity -- there is no permanent T-cell immunity. Antibody immunity is required to stop you from being re-infected.

    You really should learn to educate yourself from reliable sources instead of conspiracy postings in social media.

    If your "natural herd immunity" works so well -- explain to us why COVID did not end in Florida did not end after their first huge wave last summer.

    Since you obviously don't know the answer -- let me help. New waves will occur in Florida since:
    1) Being naturally infected only provides anti-body immunity for a limited period of time.
    2) Natural anti-body immunity provides even less protection against new variants.
    3) The population is less than fully vaccinated -- leaving plenty of available fuel for the COVID fire.
    4) In an unvaccinated scenario -- unvaccinated waves end when a good number people change their behavior by social distancing, wearing mask, and reducing attendance of public gatherings. Of course when people revert their behavior back then a new outbreak is inevitable in a not fully vaccinated population,
     
    #509     Aug 10, 2021
  10. COVID-19 survivors may possess wide-ranging resistance to the disease

    Recovered COVID-19 patients retain broad and effective longer-term immunity to the disease, suggests a recent Emory University study, which is the most comprehensive of its kind so far.

    http://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/07/covid_survivors_resistance/index.html

    Emory University School of Medicine is a pioneer in this field

    Cooper and Miller are recognized for identifying and defining the function of B and T cells, a monumental achievement that uncovered the organizing principle of the adaptive immune system and launched the course of modern immunology.

    “We are extremely fortunate to have him as a member of our Emory University and Vaccine Center faculty," says Lewin, Emory executive vice president for health affairs and executive director of the Woodruff Health Sciences Center.

    https://news.emory.edu/features/2019/09/lasker-award-cooper/index.html
     
    #510     Aug 10, 2021
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