The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, May 21, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    By the way remember when the asshole gwb was always pushing that immunity only lasted 3 months...

    Well today... he wrote this on the other thread... he said immunity for some could last 180 days to decades...




     
    #471     Apr 30, 2021
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  2. jem

    jem

    Today it is your study today with your experts.
    So that means my experts and your experts state it is possible and could last a long time.

    You lied and lied and made shit up about the subject..
    even now... you don't admit you lied...

    you are the biggest asshole possible.


    your experts tested for T cell immunity as part of the study... you fucking lying moron.
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    Finally, you are being an asshole again...why are you implying that someone here claimed they were the same thing.. you just lie and lie and lie.


     
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    #472     Apr 30, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    An in-depth study showed that antibody immunity after catching COVID does not last 6 months for 40% of people. For 11.6% of people it does not even last a few days. How difficult is this for you to understand.? I guess actual medicine and science is difficult for you.
     
    #473     Apr 30, 2021
  4. jem

    jem

    Then why did you state it only last 3 months and kept lying and lying about it.


     
    #474     Apr 30, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    At the time 3 months was stated -- it was based on scientific studies AT THAT TIME -- that antibody immunity in many people did not last three months.... which has been proven to be true.

    Now we are later in time so studies over longer periods are being done with larger groups of people for updated results. This is science works when confronted with a new disease -- the knowledge and information evolves as proper medical studies are completed.
     
    #475     Apr 30, 2021
  6. jem

    jem

    why are are still lying?




     
    #476     Apr 30, 2021
  7. jem

    jem

    so you agree you were lying...

     
    #477     Apr 30, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Everyone with rationality agrees you are delusional.
     
    #478     Apr 30, 2021
  9. That has not been established yet. Even Emperor Fauxci has emphasized that many times. That is one of his justifications for all the hypermasking he promotes. All of the vaccine studies that are promoted as showing effectivity are based on a definition of effectivity meaning preventing serious symptoms or hospitalizations or deaths.

    The point being that we cannot go binary and say that T-cell immunity often stops covid but leaves room for symptoms and a period of transmissability whereas the antibodies and vaccines provide immediate neutralizing and the virus is dead on arrival. That has not been established. Both high level t-cells and high level antibodies can be a means of overcoming the virus but there is no light switch being flipped off with either one- for most people anyway. And this is true after being vaccinated as well. "Catching" is not really a medical term or concept anyway. One layman may mean that they did not catch the infection because no virus entered and survived, and another may mean they did not catch it because they did not feel unwell. Whether the virus the t-cells and the antibodies still went through a dance after a previous infection or vaccination is another matter and whether they transmitted during that period is another matter.
     
    #479     Apr 30, 2021
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is not a single reputable peer-reviewed medical paper demonstrating that there is "T-Cell" immunity to COVID in a study with a group of people. This is nonsense floated by COVID deniers to claim we have reached "natural herd immunity" despite antibody tests showing less than 10% of the population (at the time) with antibodies. It is time we stopped paying attention to non-scientific nonsense pushed by COVID-deniers which is laughed at by the mainstream medical community.
     
    #480     Apr 30, 2021