Trump said his being infected with the coronavirus is a blessing from god. I suspect that’s the neurosyphilis talking.
I posted an update to my prior post but will not repeat it in this reply to your comment because it contains a different topic. ..... Replying to your message post: Its the exact same issue for the increase in home schooling in curriculum that are not consider to be liberal although typically schools are not ranked via a political perspective in Canada nor France...that tend to be more professional / technical in the latter part of secondary school with the option of continuing further with a college degree that has more immersion into literature, history, languages, philosophy, mathematics, and general sciences. I myself was never home schooled but I did go to boarding schools for the grade levels that parents either do public school, private school or home schooling. Thus, I'm really not sure about the specifics of home schooling although I do know one home school parent that's giving her children a very technical education along with the mandatory home schooling guidelines set by Canada under the education act. My point, it seems to me that any liberal education isn't fully immersed in until college even at highly technical universities because liberal arts is a foundation that many students take in their first two years of University (e.g. Psychology 101). I do know here in Canada...there's a decline in the study of liberal arts that they've taken steps to correct that... What is new is the serious decline in liberal arts enrolment at Canadian universities in recent years, particularly in certain regions, and the abundance of attacks on the value of the liberal arts in media commentary – the latter doing much to drive the former. This matters because Canada needs the liberal arts. In our global knowledge economy, employer demand for the skills and abilities nurtured through the liberal arts is growing. And more broadly, our increasingly complex, multicultural and technologically advanced world needs the knowledge, skills and adaptability that are integral to an education in the humanities and social sciences. The liberal arts help us navigate disruptive change and build an innovative, prosperous and inclusive Canada. This growing economic and social imperative was the impetus for Universities Canada to organize an international forum on the future of the liberal arts in March 2016. wrbtrader
Has Sweden beaten coronavirus? Expert claims by refusing to shut the country down the Swedes now have 'herd immunity' and have avoided a second wave Sweden was only European nation not to introduce strict lockdown measures It has been recording its lowest number of Covid-19 cases since start of outbreak It has seen 28 infections per 100,000 people compared to UK's 69 per 100,000 By RAVEN SAUNT FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 10:29 EDT, 22 September 2020 | UPDATED: 03:18 EDT, 23 September 2020 Sweden has beaten coronavirus by refusing to shut the country down and achieving herd immunity, according to an expert. The Scandinavian nation was the only country in Europe not to introduce strict lockdown measures at the start of the pandemic. But scientists believe that this may have helped it avoid a second wave of Covid-19 as it continues to record its lowest number of cases since March - with just 28 infections per 100,000 people. This figure is less than half of the UK's own infection rate of 69 per 100,000 people. +4 +4 Professor Kim Sneppen, an expert in the spread of coronavirus at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, said that Sweden might have beaten the pandemic. He told Denmark's Politiken newspaper: 'There is some evidence that the Swedes have built up a degree of immunity to the virus which, along with what else they are doing to stop the spread, is enough to control the disease. +4 Professor Kim Sneppen, (pictured) an expert in the spread of coronavirus at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, said that Sweden might have beaten the pandemic 'Perhaps, the epidemic is over there.' He said that the virus may now have run out of steam. He added: 'That is what they have said. 'On the positive side, they may now be finished with the epidemic.' Sweden was initially criticised at the start of the outbreak after recording a spike in its mortality rates which was five times that of Denmark and ten times that of Norway and Finland. Number of deaths per 24 hours peaked in April at 115 with more than half in care homes. But its seven-day average for coronavirus-related deaths is now zero. Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who has become the face of the no-lockdown strategy, said in a recent interview that voluntary hygiene measures had been 'just as effective' as complete shutdowns. Sweden kept open schools for children under 16, banned gatherings of more than 50 people and told over-70s and vulnerable groups to self-isolate. Shops, bars and restaurants stayed open throughout the pandemic and the wearing of masks has not been advised by the government. 'The rapidly declining cases we see in Sweden right now is another indication that you can get the number of cases down quite a lot in a country without having a complete lockdown,' he previously told Unherd. Sweden's chief epidemiologist talks the countries Covid strategy The Scandinavian nation was the only country in Europe not to introduce strict lockdown measures at the start of the pandemic. Pictured: Crowds walking in Stockholm earlier this week Tegnell added that 'deaths are not so closely connected to the amount of cases you have in a country', saying the death rate was more closely linked to whether older people are being infected and how well the health system can cope. 'Those things will influence mortality a lot more, I think, than the actual spread of the disease,' he said. Swedish economic activity has also started to pick up with the effects of the downturn looking less severe than previously feared. The economy had shrunk by nine per cent but this too was less than the 20 per cent dip seen in the UK. It is thought that because many younger people have already had coronavirus in Sweden it now has less chance to spread through the population. Recent studies suggested that an infection rate of 43 per cent may be enough to achieve herd immunity - a figure much lower than the 60 per cent previously cited. WHAT IS HERD IMMUNITY? Herd immunity is a situation in which a population of people is protected from a disease because so many of them are unaffected by it - because they've already had it or have been vaccinated - that it cannot spread. To cause an outbreak a disease-causing bacteria or virus must have a continuous supply of potential victims who are not immune to it. Immunity is when your body knows exactly how to fight off a certain type of infection because it has encountered it before, either by having the illness in the past or through a vaccine. When a virus or bacteria enters the body the immune system creates substances called antibodies, which are designed to destroy one specific type of bug. When these have been created once, some of them remain in the body and the body also remembers how to make them again. Antibodies - alongside T cells - provide long-term protection, or immunity, against an illness. If nobody is immune to an illness – as was the case at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak – it can spread like wildfire. However, if, for example, half of people have developed immunity – from a past infection or a vaccine – there are only half as many people the illness can spread to. As more and more people become immune the bug finds it harder and harder to spread until its pool of victims becomes so small it can no longer spread at all. The threshold for herd immunity is different for various illnesses, depending on how contagious they are – for measles, around 95 per cent of people must be vaccinated to it spreading. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8760031/Expert-claims-Sweden-herd-immunity-coronavirus.html
W.H.O does not advocate lockdowns if you have the hospital resources. Thanks to Traderob for posting and article about this on another thread.
It is now pretty clear that natural antibody immunity for COVID lasts a mere 2 to 7 months in the majority of people who recover from infection. There are already multiple medically documented cases of re-infection months apart. This means that "natural herd immunity" is a complete farce. Coronavirus: Antibodies fall rapidly after COVID infection, dashing hopes of herd immunity - study Researchers find that the number of people with antibodies in their study fell by 26% since lockdown measures were relaxed. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...tibodies-fall-rapidly-after-recovery-12115510 Hopes that the population will become immune to COVID-19 have been dashed by new research showing antibodies fall rapidly after recovering from the disease. So-called herd immunity has been proposed by some scientists as a better alternative to lockdowns in tackling the coronavirus pandemic. It would require around 50-60% of the population to have protection against the virus so it could no longer transmit efficiently. However, a major UK study has found that rather than building immunity over time, the number of people with antibodies has fallen by 26% since lockdown was eased over the summer. Researchers from Imperial College London screened 365,000 people over three rounds of testing between June and September. Results of the REACT-2 study showed that 6% of people had antibodies to the virus around the time lockdown was eased in late June and early July. But by the start of the second wave last month, this dropped to just 4.4%. Professor Helen Ward, one of the researchers, said the new results strongly suggest that herd immunity is unachievable. "When you think 95 people out of 100 are still likely to be susceptible, we are a long, long way from anything resembling population level protection against onward transmission," she said. "It's not something you can use as a strategy for infection control [for COVID-19] in the population." The finding is another blow to scientists behind the controversial Great Barrington Declaration, who had suggested that vulnerable people could be shielded at home while the virus spreads through the young and healthy to build up herd immunity. The proposal has been strongly criticised by many other scientists. The researchers found younger people, those from black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) communities and health workers had higher antibody levels, possibly because they were in regular contact with infected individuals. The fall in antibodies suggest people will be regularly re-infected, just as they are with related coronaviruses that cause the common cold. Professor Wendy Barclay, an infectious diseases specialist and one of the researchers, said antibodies peak three to four weeks after symptoms and then drop away, as they do for related viruses. She said: "Seasonal coronaviruses that circulate every winter and cause common colds can re-infect people after six to 12 months. "We suspect that the way the body reacts to infection with this new coronavirus is similar to that." There have so far only been a handful of documented cases of re-infection. Dr Alexander Edwards, associate professor in biomedical technology at the University of Reading, said: "What is not clear is how quickly antibody levels would rise again if a person encounters the virus a second time. "It is possible they will still rapidly respond, and either have a milder illness, or remain protected through immune memory. "So even if the rapid antibody test is no longer positive, the person may still be protected from re-infection." The study, which is yet to be peer reviewed, only measured antibodies. It is possible that another arm of the immune system called T-cells, may remain active, but there is currently no available test for them. Scientists are cautious about using the results to predict the protection provided by a vaccine. They say immunisations may lead to a more robust antibody response. Health Minister Lord Bethell said the study "is a critical piece of research, helping us to understand the nature of COVID-19 antibodies over time, and improve our understanding about the virus itself". He added: "We rely on this kind of important research to inform our continued response to the disease, so we can continue to take the right action at the right time. "It is also important that everyone knows what this means for them - this study will help in our fight against the virus, but testing positive for antibodies does not mean you are immune to COVID-19."
Nothing about that finding is new. We knew antibodies fade. They did not address T cell immunity in a substantive manner in that summary. Remember multiple experts have stated we may be able to achieve herd immunity at 20 to 30 percent levels in some communities. If antibodies last 2 to 7 months in some and they provide immunity... You just proved that herd immunity and not locking down the low risk may be the best strategy we have.... From your article.... "The researchers found younger people, those from black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) communities and health workers had higher antibody levels, possibly because they were in regular contact with infected individuals. "It is possible they will still rapidly respond, and either have a milder illness, or remain protected through immune memory. "So even if the rapid antibody test is no longer positive, the person may still be protected from re-infection." I