The Great Global Warming Swindle

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. Well I keep waiting to hear some relevant science from him.

    In the absence of a good argument he simply declares that AGW is bull. This is a sign that the position stems from something other than science and common sense.

    Plus the history of 377 is that he's a whacked-out, irrational righty or libertarian (which is even worse).
     
    #301     Feb 9, 2013
  2. Oh puhleeze you don't even believe in AGW and it's implications, either. So why you constantly try to proselytize your religion to myself and others on here borders on the need for clinical intervention.
     
    #302     Feb 9, 2013
  3. I watched it and found so much bull it was hard to keep up. This guy has done good showing what a fraud it is.

    “The Great Global Warming Swindle” is itself a Fraud and a Swindle

    by
    Bill Butler

    “The Great Global Warming Swindle” (DVD/video/movie) is a pseudo-documentary in which British television producer Martin Durkin has fraudulently misrepresented both the data involved and scientists who have researched global climate. Movie director Durkin has willfully misrepresented the facts about global warming just to advocate his own agenda. The program was originally aired on England’s “Channel 4” (The “Supermarket Tabloid” of the airwaves). In the past, “Channel 4” has had to broadcast a prime-time apology for broadcasting another of Martin Durkin’s “sleazebag” pseudo-documentaries.

    “The Great Global Warming Swindle” is aimed at and appeals to the “Don’t bother me with the facts - I’ve already made up my mind” audience. There may be future media presentations by those who wish to promote ignorant political viewpoints instead of presenting factual knowledge. (Or possibly, the individuals involved have never passed a high school science course and don’t understand that there is a difference.)

    Martin Durkin’s modus operandi for the various versions of the DVD/video/movie appears to be:
    1) I want to propagandize my anti-environment, anti-global warming agenda.
    2) What kind of wild stories, manufactured “evidence”, etc. can I include this time to provide political fodder for the scientifically illiterate dimwits?


    The one cardinal rule in science is that you do not misrepresent the data. But this is what the producer of this pseudo-documentary has done to try to promote his own opinions.

    The picture-pairs that follow are Print Screen images from the video version of the pseudo-documentary vs. the factual data. At one time Google had a copy of the video at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170 . All references refer to this Google “Wag TV” video version although it appears that it is no longer available at this link. There may be another slightly shorter version at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3028847519933351566 Please search the Internet for other versions if this shorter version also disappears.

    Viewers are encouraged to compare each of the picture-pairs below and draw their own conclusions as to whether the pseudo-documentary is based on factual data, or if the pseudo-documentary falsifies the data as part of an anti-environmental campaign. (See the 2nd half of the pseudo-documentary for the anti-environmental campaign.)


    The Actual Recent Temperature Record

    This first pair of pictures compares the partial temperature record as presented in “The Great Global Warming Swindle” vs. the actual observations as shown at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies.


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    The vertical bars at the right are the pseudo-documentary’s assertion that most of the recent rise in global temperatures occurred before 1940. The exact words from the pseudo-documentary are:
    “Most of the rise in temperature occurred before 1940.” (About 14 min. 20 sec. into the presentation.)
    Please take a close look at the right-hand portion of the graph.

    The picture below shows the actual changes in the world’s temperature as presented by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

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    Again please take a close look at the right-hand portion of the graph. The pseudo-documentary version of the temperature graph omits the last 20 years of data. (And “fluffed” the graph to disguise this omission.) The rapid increase in world temperatures over the last 20 years has paralleled the rapid rise in carbon dioxide concentrations. However, the pseudo-documentary does not include this data. (Note: The slight cooling that took place from 1940 to the 1960’s was caused by increasing sulfates in the atmosphere - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png )

    The director of the pseudo-documentary has willfully omitted this most recent data because it would disprove the personal agenda that he is trying to promote. When anyone misrepresents real data to try to present a personal agenda, what he is doing is flat out

    FRAUD!!

    As defined by “Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary of Law” at http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fraud

    “fraud - specifically : a misrepresentation or concealment with reference to some fact material to a transaction that is made with knowledge of its falsity or in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity and with the intent to deceive another”


    The GISS climate database is shown in the above chart. GISS is used as it covers the entire earth’s surface. Some of the Global Warming Deniers claim that GISS is not representative. The graph below shows the temperature records from all four of the major climate databases. (NASA/GISS, NOAA/NCDC, HadleyCRU, and JMA (Japan Meteorological Agency)) All four show similar temperature patterns including sharp warming in recent decades.


    for much more....http://www.durangobill.com/Swindle_Swindle.html
     
    #303     Feb 9, 2013
  4. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    You are starting to remind me of RCG. You've crossed a line and have started making stuff up.

    An important distinction between the two of you though is that RCG has a profession that required some schooling and which has a serious impact on people. You on the other hand are just an obnoxious AC installer who fancies himself to be a deep thinker but in reality is just a lickspittle disciple of hucksters who exploit dolts and dullards to enrich themselves. A nasty piece of work in a grimy little white utility truck muttering to himself at the stoplight about "righties".

    AGW doesn't exist. Even the people who promulgated this fraud initially have admitted it. You're like one of those Japanese soldiers who stayed in his trench for 45 years after the war was over. The AGW fraud has been exposed and those responsible have admitted that they manipulated the data and deliberately drew inaccurate conclusions in order to serve a political agenda. It was bad science coupled with dishonest reporting. Only the mindless hardcore altar boys of AGW still believe in it.
     
    #304     Feb 9, 2013
  5. pspr

    pspr

    It more than borders on the need. FC is incoherently delusional. He keeps repeating the same old tired debunked lies expecting that somehow rational people will suddenly forget that all his data is contrived, manipulated or slanted to represent a political point of view.
     
    #305     Feb 9, 2013
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    How's that AGW working out in the north east US this week end?
    Doesn't it have to be below freezing to snow?
     
    #306     Feb 9, 2013
  7. jem

    jem

    You know damn well there has been no statistical rise in temps since 1996.

    So whatever the hell you fraud buster was trying to say... he misrepresented what has happened for the last 16 years.

    Plus if you click on the link now you get a different graph --- a graph you recently posted... which utilized discredited models.

    In short your fraud buster is a fool or a fraud himself.


     
    #307     Feb 9, 2013
  8. VVV1234

    VVV1234

    Actually, warmer than average recent temperatures in the southern US help fuel Nemo. A warm rain front moved northeast as a snow front descended from Canada. This combined into
    a huge blizzard.

    Global warming doesn't mean it won't get cold in the winter.
    A warming trend could make North Dakota temperatures in the 3-5 degrees warmer than historical averages, but it is still going to be averaging 10-20 F in the dead of winter.
     
    #308     Feb 10, 2013
  9. See this chart below jem? Print it out, roll it up, and stick up your ass.


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    #309     Feb 10, 2013
  10. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    I think it is safe to say that you have capitulated and that this debate if effectively over.

    If you could just go ahead and mention Hitler or the Nazis to make it official that would be great. Thanks again for playing and better luck next time.
     
    #310     Feb 10, 2013