Well I keep waiting to hear some relevant science from him. In the absence of a good argument he simply declares that AGW is bull. This is a sign that the position stems from something other than science and common sense. Plus the history of 377 is that he's a whacked-out, irrational righty or libertarian (which is even worse).
Oh puhleeze you don't even believe in AGW and it's implications, either. So why you constantly try to proselytize your religion to myself and others on here borders on the need for clinical intervention.
I watched it and found so much bull it was hard to keep up. This guy has done good showing what a fraud it is. âThe Great Global Warming Swindleâ is itself a Fraud and a Swindle by Bill Butler âThe Great Global Warming Swindleâ (DVD/video/movie) is a pseudo-documentary in which British television producer Martin Durkin has fraudulently misrepresented both the data involved and scientists who have researched global climate. Movie director Durkin has willfully misrepresented the facts about global warming just to advocate his own agenda. The program was originally aired on Englandâs âChannel 4â (The âSupermarket Tabloidâ of the airwaves). In the past, âChannel 4â has had to broadcast a prime-time apology for broadcasting another of Martin Durkinâs âsleazebagâ pseudo-documentaries. âThe Great Global Warming Swindleâ is aimed at and appeals to the âDonât bother me with the facts - Iâve already made up my mindâ audience. There may be future media presentations by those who wish to promote ignorant political viewpoints instead of presenting factual knowledge. (Or possibly, the individuals involved have never passed a high school science course and donât understand that there is a difference.) Martin Durkinâs modus operandi for the various versions of the DVD/video/movie appears to be: 1) I want to propagandize my anti-environment, anti-global warming agenda. 2) What kind of wild stories, manufactured âevidenceâ, etc. can I include this time to provide political fodder for the scientifically illiterate dimwits? The one cardinal rule in science is that you do not misrepresent the data. But this is what the producer of this pseudo-documentary has done to try to promote his own opinions. The picture-pairs that follow are Print Screen images from the video version of the pseudo-documentary vs. the factual data. At one time Google had a copy of the video at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170 . All references refer to this Google âWag TVâ video version although it appears that it is no longer available at this link. There may be another slightly shorter version at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3028847519933351566 Please search the Internet for other versions if this shorter version also disappears. Viewers are encouraged to compare each of the picture-pairs below and draw their own conclusions as to whether the pseudo-documentary is based on factual data, or if the pseudo-documentary falsifies the data as part of an anti-environmental campaign. (See the 2nd half of the pseudo-documentary for the anti-environmental campaign.) The Actual Recent Temperature Record This first pair of pictures compares the partial temperature record as presented in âThe Great Global Warming Swindleâ vs. the actual observations as shown at NASAâs Goddard Institute for Space Studies. The vertical bars at the right are the pseudo-documentaryâs assertion that most of the recent rise in global temperatures occurred before 1940. The exact words from the pseudo-documentary are: âMost of the rise in temperature occurred before 1940.â (About 14 min. 20 sec. into the presentation.) Please take a close look at the right-hand portion of the graph. The picture below shows the actual changes in the worldâs temperature as presented by NASAâs Goddard Institute for Space Studies. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/ Again please take a close look at the right-hand portion of the graph. The pseudo-documentary version of the temperature graph omits the last 20 years of data. (And âfluffedâ the graph to disguise this omission.) The rapid increase in world temperatures over the last 20 years has paralleled the rapid rise in carbon dioxide concentrations. However, the pseudo-documentary does not include this data. (Note: The slight cooling that took place from 1940 to the 1960âs was caused by increasing sulfates in the atmosphere - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png ) The director of the pseudo-documentary has willfully omitted this most recent data because it would disprove the personal agenda that he is trying to promote. When anyone misrepresents real data to try to present a personal agenda, what he is doing is flat out FRAUD!! As defined by âMerriam-Websterâs Dictionary of Lawâ at http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fraud âfraud - specifically : a misrepresentation or concealment with reference to some fact material to a transaction that is made with knowledge of its falsity or in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity and with the intent to deceive anotherâ The GISS climate database is shown in the above chart. GISS is used as it covers the entire earthâs surface. Some of the Global Warming Deniers claim that GISS is not representative. The graph below shows the temperature records from all four of the major climate databases. (NASA/GISS, NOAA/NCDC, HadleyCRU, and JMA (Japan Meteorological Agency)) All four show similar temperature patterns including sharp warming in recent decades. for much more....http://www.durangobill.com/Swindle_Swindle.html
You are starting to remind me of RCG. You've crossed a line and have started making stuff up. An important distinction between the two of you though is that RCG has a profession that required some schooling and which has a serious impact on people. You on the other hand are just an obnoxious AC installer who fancies himself to be a deep thinker but in reality is just a lickspittle disciple of hucksters who exploit dolts and dullards to enrich themselves. A nasty piece of work in a grimy little white utility truck muttering to himself at the stoplight about "righties". AGW doesn't exist. Even the people who promulgated this fraud initially have admitted it. You're like one of those Japanese soldiers who stayed in his trench for 45 years after the war was over. The AGW fraud has been exposed and those responsible have admitted that they manipulated the data and deliberately drew inaccurate conclusions in order to serve a political agenda. It was bad science coupled with dishonest reporting. Only the mindless hardcore altar boys of AGW still believe in it.
It more than borders on the need. FC is incoherently delusional. He keeps repeating the same old tired debunked lies expecting that somehow rational people will suddenly forget that all his data is contrived, manipulated or slanted to represent a political point of view.
How's that AGW working out in the north east US this week end? Doesn't it have to be below freezing to snow?
You know damn well there has been no statistical rise in temps since 1996. So whatever the hell you fraud buster was trying to say... he misrepresented what has happened for the last 16 years. Plus if you click on the link now you get a different graph --- a graph you recently posted... which utilized discredited models. In short your fraud buster is a fool or a fraud himself.
Actually, warmer than average recent temperatures in the southern US help fuel Nemo. A warm rain front moved northeast as a snow front descended from Canada. This combined into a huge blizzard. Global warming doesn't mean it won't get cold in the winter. A warming trend could make North Dakota temperatures in the 3-5 degrees warmer than historical averages, but it is still going to be averaging 10-20 F in the dead of winter.
I think it is safe to say that you have capitulated and that this debate if effectively over. If you could just go ahead and mention Hitler or the Nazis to make it official that would be great. Thanks again for playing and better luck next time.