Spydie, in reality it is I who want to teach people to think. Jack makes unquantified general statements which do not bear up under critical examination. How many Israelites do you suppose would have followed Moses into the Wilderness had they known they would wander for two generations? You are Jack's burning bush. He hides behind you to this day. If I am the golden bullock he should smash me himself. Jack wants idolaters, not thinkers. No disrespect to you personally, as you well know, but I made this challenge knowing full well Jack would never take it. He will never turn a rod into a serpent. He says instead, through you, "Oh faithless generation, that seeks a sign!".