The future of the United States includes...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SouthAmerica, Jul 7, 2009.

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  1. To the pompous BS artist "Trader":


    We can go all the way back to Mesopatamian algebra if you want to talk about offshoots. SPARC is no longer actively developed by Sun, and it is only a specification, it started as a brand name, the pre-international (before 20 years ago) specification is completely different and the hardware is not compatible at all, it was entirely new and redesigned.

    The point is what is developed today.

    The whole internet and computers that we have today was based on the DARPAnet in the 60s that continued in to the early 70s, everything else is simply an add on to those innovations. Once the internet protocol was developed, all other applications that hae been built up on top of that is not fundamentally new technology at all, it is all the same, only accessibility improvements, which by your inane standards is not innovation unless it is American.

    Again microsoft and apple have only marketed a brand and licensed products, they have not developed any new technology at all, yet you mention them. There have been other search engines besides google yet you mention them specifically.

    The only thing that Microsoft and Apple have innovated is revenue and profits, they have made no technological innovations at all. Your biased garbage seems to apply different biased standards to non-us companies.

    You can't even define innovation. Again Define innovation a lot of the companies you mentioned have not innovated at all if you compare it to the non-us companies.


    You mentioned Intel on your innovation list. By the way the first Intel processor was actually not even not owned by Intel. A Japanese firm Busicom owned the rights and Intel had to buy a license from Busicom. So Intel innovations are an offshoot of a Japanese innovation.


    This conversation is FATAL IN THE END
    The ultimate fact is that there is nothing in the US pipeline NOW, so when the currency becomes worthless, and the credit disappears, no one will finance research for your "innovation"

    So there you go loser, DO YOUR RESEARCH, you need the practice, or you will look incompetent for the rest of your life.
     
    #161     Jul 14, 2009
  2. ROTFLMAO!!! More desperate lies from the jailbird who wants to renounce his citizenship and who advises people to commit felony tax evasion. No debate? Oh please. You got your ass kicked and anyone who wants to verify can read from this point back: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2388683#post2388683 And speaking of stupid motherfuckers, it's "recount" not "recant."
     
    #162     Jul 14, 2009
  3. You're an ignorant, jaded, jealous, delusional fool. The rest of your garbage is just as stupid.

    Survey: Microsoft has strongest patent portfolio

    January 5, 2009, 05:30 PM — IDG News Service — U.S. technology companies led an annual survey rating the strength of corporate patent portfolios, with Microsoft coming out on top.

    According to the IEEE Spectrum patent scorecard, the so-called "pipeline power" of Microsoft's patent portfolio was the highest among all companies, with Intel coming in second and IBM third. The IEEE Spectrum is a magazine put out by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, a technology trade organization.


    http://www.itworld.com/legal/60115/survey-microsoft-has-strongest-patent-portfolio

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2501665>
     
    #163     Jul 14, 2009
  4. Microsoft is a piece of shit company that was purely lucky enough to have the only mass-scale available OS at a time when the PC was about to explode onto the scene, and benefited greatly from IBM's ineptitude and government contracts.

    Read 'Barbarians Led By Bill Gates' for a great biography of how Microsoft is possibly the luckiest corporation in the history of the world.
     
    #164     Jul 14, 2009
  5. Gee whiz.. proof that Microsoft is just a huge patent mill. There's no proof those patents have any commercial value anyways. And on top if it, you're going to defend a monopolistic piece of shit company that does nothing but attack competition with lawsuits as being a great innovator? Fuck that
     
    #165     Jul 14, 2009
  6. heypa

    heypa

    You underestimate Bill Gates chicanery.
     
    #166     Jul 14, 2009
  7. I hate to break it to you, loser, but Intel invented the microprocessor and built it for Busicom (Texas Instruments is sometimes given credit for the near-simultaneous invention of the microprocessor). More American innovation that you envy so much, you can't face it. Must suck to be as jaded and jealous as you. :p
     
    #167     Jul 14, 2009
  8. Wrong. You obviously don't even know what the IEEE is. Get a clue.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Electrical_and_Electronics_Engineers
     
    #168     Jul 14, 2009
  9. LOL are you kidding? Microsoft.

    What the hell has Microsoft ever innovated outside of a monopoly.

    The pompous BS artist needs a history lesson.

    Bill gates did not develop anything for MS.

    Microsoft's original OS DOS was 86-DOS created by Seattle Computer Products. Microsoft bought out the rights to the OS, that is some real "innovation".

    Microsoft then created a gui for the system, Let's discuss the gui, the first was featured on the Xerox Alto OS. Xerox then introduced the Star, which then was copied and fitted by both Apple and then MS.

    Microsoft become wealthy through its licensing strategy and its right to sell pc, to companies other than IBM, that was fatal mistake for IBM. MS then created tons of code built on top of the original DOS, so that programs would continue to function with each new version of Windows. Microsoft copies other people's software and incorporates to Windows. MS still uses the same NTFS file system.

    Microsoft then created an office suite, which had features copied from Lotus 1-2-3 and Word Perfect office software and then offered bundled discounts to oems for essentially the same software MS office.
    Microsoft's browser IE was based on Mosaic, their founders then founded Netscape. Microsoft copied features from the browser and only supported at a minimum what Netscape supported to stay relevant and bundled it with the OS, while giving discounts to oems. Microsoft did not add any new features to IE essentially until Mozilla Firefox become a considerable in the browser market a couple years ago. Directx was a modified copy originally of Opengl.

    All that Microsoft has built up from DOS-windows-explorer is built into vista and now 7

    .NET is copying java, visual studio copied the developer IDE from those previously created at Borland and sqlserver is just an RDBMS like oracle, DB2 etc

    Xbox (a pet project) is simply another game console, zune another mp3 player, WinMo, MSN (default IE homepage) etc and all are second or third rate competitors

    Not to mention webtv, zune, SPoT, Encarta, msn search, Live Search, PlaysForSure and many others which have all failed.

    All MS can do is suck the public dry with their monopoly and anti-competitive oem practices, and blow some of their excess profits on Ad campaigns that are irrelevant anyway.

    All of Microsoft's innovation was previously created by other corporations, Microsoft just took the same principles and features present in that other software/embedded devices/hardware and rebranded it and filed patents and copyrights. The windows tcp/ip comes from BSD, Microsoft then implemented and patented their own version.
    Software patents exist because lawyers figured out a way around the rules, by describing the computing device within the patent, Microsoft creates new lines of code to add on to previously made products like Windows, Office and IE for example, while only on occasion make significant improvements.
    Those MS patents are for services and products related to MS' crown jewel monopoly (new lines of code and a plethora of other products that have failed or are essentially theoretical proprietary implementation's from other companies that have actually innovated.
     
    #169     Jul 14, 2009

  10. To the pompous BS artist:

    DO YOUR RESEARCH

    The intel chip was chiefly co-designed by the italian engineer Federico Faggin, ted Hoff and Masatoshi Shima of BUSICOM who had been contracted to design the chip for BUSICOM not Intel.
     
    #170     Jul 14, 2009
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