The fine GOP House majority

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 3, 2023.

  1. Sadly Chinese money is absolutely everywhere. It losts its moniker as being a bad thing because there is nothing in government connected to the outside world from either party that is free from Chinese money...especially when that very government is heavily indebted to the Chinese who buy are treasuries.

    Both CNN and FOX want to raise a China flag if any dollars touches someone but it seems hypocritical when U.S. citizens buy everything from China and the U.S. government borrows everything from China. There is hardly a major university or corporation that is not actively soliciting Chinese money..

    As long as there is not an actual illegal payment but is it really shocking trump and biden get Chinese money for their business and think tank (Biden has a think tank haha).


    I just dont think its much of a big deal anymore....If you are not buying or borrowing from China, you probably are not that important or successful (I count ASia as one of my major supplier sources so me too!)
     
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    #351     Jan 13, 2023
  2. Well that is what Joe wants to hear so you have earned your potato.

    The reality is that more and more of the dems are raising concerns about China too and there are some consensus issues there. In addition to what I said previously ie. the dems who want to see Biden not run again are willing to let more inquiry arise unchallenged than before. Joy Behar and that crew would take a bullet for Joe today. If Gavin Newsom announces then they will use anything against Joe to throw him under the bus.
     
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    #352     Jan 13, 2023
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  3. I dont care about all that other shit because that is not what I said.... trump and biden getting money from China for thier business or foundations is no longer the shock value it once was... China money is everywhere already so what is the big deal.
     
    #353     Jan 13, 2023
  4. Maybe that will work for Joe.

    Big Guy was getting 10 while VP and after.

    Maybe the "what's the big deal" argument will work.

    Let's see.

    The lefties went apoplectic over fake allegations that Trump was getting money over Russia. Yet we are now being told that if Biden is on the take from China, it is no big deal. How convenient.
     
    #354     Jan 13, 2023

  5. I said both guys getting money into their foundations and businesses no longer has the shock value it once was.... you can bring in other people to this conversation if you dont want to talk to me, that is fine . you tend to avoid direct conversations with me lately so I guess I should stop replying to your posts.
     
    #355     Jan 13, 2023
  6. I gave a direct reply to your posts.

    They were not convenient for your argument.

    No need to turn it into whether I am not giving you enough love or something.
     
    #356     Jan 13, 2023

  7. You are talking to me about Joy Behar and Gavin Newsome.....

    the point is China money is eveyrwhere and has been for more than 10 years already why now is there pearl clutching over it...it is like foreign money was an issue from 2008 - 2016 and 2020-2022 but was ok from 2016 - 2020?

    Most people really dont give a shit.. only FOX and CNN....
     
    #357     Jan 13, 2023
  8. Well, it was just Fox, but now has expanded to CNN.

    Until recently it was hyped as just a Fox, MAGA thing.

    So what will it be next? "just FOX, CNN, the New York Times, and the Washington Post.?"

    Joe will be and is getting more attention than he wants on this.

    And it has barely started. Mainstream America was not all that interested in the January 6 hearings but the dems put on the circus anyway. They might have to put up with some circuses from the republicans too. Poor babies.

    I want to see them use that same big digital screen that the dems used for the Jan 6 hearings, the one that looks like you are at a drive-in movie. Except showing video from Hunter's laptop. Yeh. I am down with that.
     
    #358     Jan 13, 2023
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Chinese money has been an issue in American politics for a long time.

    Anyone remember Chinagate in 1996

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy

    The direct spending by China as foreign agents to influence American politics is increasing quickly.


    China increases spending 500% to influence America
    https://www.axios.com/2021/05/11/china-foreign-influence-spending

    China's work to influence American politics via all channels including social media is growing quickly as well.

    China’s Growing Attempts to Influence U.S. Politics
    China appears to be increasingly interfering in U.S. elections through intensive lobbying, control of foreign media outlets, and sophisticated disinformation campaigns.
    https://www.cfr.org/article/chinas-growing-attempts-influence-us-politics


    Chinese money in American politics has been an issue which has been around for a long time. However in recent years the problem is growing quickly. It is not limited to one side of the aisle. Both Democrats and Republicans have been influenced by China -- including via campaign donations from on-shore resources being effectively directed by the Chinese government.

    The Citizens United Playbook
    How a Top GOP Lawyer Guided a Chinese-Owned Company Into U.S. Presidential Politics

    https://theintercept.com/2016/08/03/gop-lawyer-chinese-owned-company-us-presidential-politics/

    Political Donors Linked to China Won Access to Trump, GOP
    Hundreds of thousands of dollars in political donations opened doors in Washington for Chinese nationals with high-level ties
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/political-donors-linked-to-china-won-access-to-trump-gop-11592925569





     
    #359     Jan 13, 2023

  10. Heh, another Biden bootlicker shows up to earn his potato.

    By making the same argument, ie. that all this Biden China stuff does not involve any news and so just move along, nothing to see here.

    Dream on. The republicans will decide what gets looked at.
     
    #360     Jan 13, 2023