The fills that I am getting are terrible

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by ProgrammerGuy, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. this is a real account.

    another stock I trade is RIMM,
    average Volume 25m

    here a trade I got:

    SOLD SHORT
    RIMM 2007-08-22, 09:35:03 USD ARCA -100 83.360001

    trade station price @ 9 :35, 83.45. 9 ticks off??????????????????????????


    is this a joke?
     
    #11     Aug 23, 2007
  2. here's another joke.


    SOLD SHORT:
    stock SEPR, average volume 2.8 million


    SEPR 2007-08-22, 09:35:02 USD ISLAND -100 27.709999


    Tradestation Price @ 9:35 was 27.79

    8 ticks off are you kidding me???????
     
    #12     Aug 23, 2007
  3. another one


    SOLD SHORT:

    MDR average 2 million shares per day


    MDR 2007-08-22, 09:34:04 USD IDEAL -100 79.739998

    Tradestation price at 9:34: 79.87
     
    #13     Aug 23, 2007
  4. another one

    LONG
    EXPE

    however average vol of only 1.28 million

    EXPE 2007-08-22, 09:34:13 USD ARCA 64 27.549999


    Tradestation price @ 9:34 27.49
     
    #14     Aug 23, 2007
  5. another one

    ATI
    average vol: 2.6 million

    SOLD SHORT:


    ATI 2007-08-22, 09:38:02 USD IDEAL -100 98.510002

    trade station price @ 98.45
     
    #15     Aug 23, 2007
  6. are these realistic fills?

    I've gathered some data and I find that the average distance between the bid and the ask is .02 - .05%, so you would think that the average distance between the quoted price and the filled price would be half that... but it ain't
     
    #16     Aug 23, 2007
  7. Now here's the scary part.


    I've been running my autotrading day trading systems for 3 months now, and this is the first time that I have looked at my fills
     
    #17     Aug 23, 2007
  8. [IfQUOTE]Quote from ProgrammerGuy:

    I have trade station. The orders from trade station are then routed through a 3rd party broker, and then sent to interactive broker.
    [/QUOTE]

    If you're trading volatile issues via market orders you need extremely fast execution. Maybe you should restructure your account.
     
    #18     Aug 23, 2007
  9. Don Bright said that the thing with market orders is that the specialist needs to match orders up, and can take a while.

    So if it gets executed 4 seconds later, my thinking was, well really it is about 50/50 to go either way. Well what's interesting is when I place a SELL order and the market then goes down i'll get filled 4 seconds later, but if the market goes up, I'll get filled immediately.

    Now I'm buying at Currentask + .02 limit, and
    selling at currentbid - .02 limit
     
    #19     Aug 23, 2007
  10. There is no specialist on Nasdaq stocks (anything with a 4 letter symbol).
     
    #20     Aug 23, 2007