The Fed is getting destroyed...massive bond losses

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Maverick74, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Six months? LOL. I'm talking about things that will transpire over the next 10 to 15 years. Nothing is going to happen to the Fed in the next 6 months. There are no short term trades here. And what does the brent/WTI spread have to do with the Fed? Or nat gas for that matter? See, this is why I asked you this question. I'm talking about the big picture. And I gave you ideas on what to do long term. There are no "daytrades" to make on the possibility that the Fed might blow up tomorrow.
     
    #81     Aug 10, 2013
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Piezoe is trying to tip tow around the fact that he is a closet liberal and at the end of the day the government will save us. He does not want to acknowledge or challenge his belief system that the "central planners" are not "planning" anything that is going to help us. He is a collectivist at heart. He supports the status quo. As long as we keep those "evil" republicans out of power, big government will watch over and protect us. Of course while they are watching him they are getting all his facebook data, e-mails, tapping his phone calls, monitoring what he reads on the web, tracking his purchases, etc. But all the data will just be used for central planning purposes. Not to worry.
     
    #82     Aug 10, 2013
  3. trilogic

    trilogic

    Interesting the fed and the economy blew out 5 years ago and its still 10 years away before a confluence of events occur that totally blow things out?

    Wti and brent largest commodity in the world has nothing to do with fed and its actions?

    Likley sooner than 10 in my opinion
     
    #83     Aug 10, 2013
  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    "Piezoe is trying to tip tow around the fact that he is a closet liberal."
    you don't know the difference between a closet liberal and a closet communist.
     
    #84     Aug 10, 2013
  5. So they will aggregate all the porn site surfing and central plan the appropriate number and type of hookers?

    Does the Fed have to work out the pricing model? :D
     
    #85     Aug 10, 2013
  6. trilogic

    trilogic

    What would be great is a site that talks about specific futures trades

    This maverick guy thinks that I think nat gas and the fed are connected in the short term? Wtf@?

    All these threads turn into self righteous subdifuge typing from a kindle fire forgive the spelling over and out this site is just tilled with nothinesss

    Oh actually ocassionsl good link to an interesting article...
     
    #86     Aug 10, 2013
  7. There are threads here that focus on futures, a thread I subscribe to that deals with global macro trading (love that stuff), pick your flavour.

    Mav has added great value here in the ACD thread, wonderful insights on inter-market analysis, and also on options. Plus he joins in the BS and shooting the bull from time to time.

    Presumably it's your Saturday afternoon, my Sunday morning and I've been enjoying the whiskey and golf for a few hours now.

    Enjoy the weekend, we can be serious again come Monday.
     
    #87     Aug 10, 2013
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    There are 100's of threads that talk about "specific" futures trades. You are posting under "Wall Street News". Not sure if you were aware of that. This is a thread where "news" gets posted and discussed. Not specific "futures" trades.

    And I have no idea where your nat gas comments were regarding. Nobody on this thread is talking about nat gas but you. We are talking about the long term implications of the Fed's balance sheet. Not what is the best trade to make over the next month. And no, the brent/WTI spread has NOTHING to do with the Fed. I don't know where you got that from. But if you want to discuss that spread, there is an entire section on futures, more specifically "energy futures" that deal with that spread and yes, this might shock you, they do talk about specific trades there.
     
    #88     Aug 10, 2013
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    [underlining above is mine]

    I am not so much saying as I am asking a question. It seems to me that in a global economy of fiat currencies what is important is our productivity relative to our trading partners along with the demand for the goods and service we produce. The old paradigm seems less and less applicable. I don't think it is useful to think of inflating or deflating the buying power of a currency in isolation from other currencies. I don't think it is possible in fact. The purchasing power of the U.S. currency will be affected by what happens in the economies of our trading partners, by the amount of new currency we create relative to our productivity and relative to the productivity and amount of currency expansion, or contraction of our trading partners, won't it? It doesn't seem correct to me to consider the dollar in isolation. We might say that while our money is no longer backed by gold, it is instead backed by the demand for the goods and services that can be purchased with it. If the demand goes up without a commensurate increase in the money supplied, we can expect depreciation of the currency, and vice versa.
     
    #89     Aug 10, 2013
  10. jem

    jem

    you are saying it is all relative and that our purchasing power via say those using the Euro is not necessarily hurt on a relative basis by crazy govt spending and central banking expansion of the money supply.

    And that may be true relative to those with Euros... but when we are competing for world resources such as food energy and soon to be water... we are having to throw tons more dollars at it... just like the owners of the Euros because the producers or owners of the world goods want to be able to buy other things all over the world and they need to keep their purchasing power up.

    So what the excessive govt spending and expansion of the money supplies crushes the middle classes standard of living on a relative basis to those all over the world. And on a relative basis vis a vis those who have investments all over the world or those who govt benefits increase with inflation.

    In short... the wealth are probably hedged, the poor and govt workers get their benefits scaled up and compete for he same housing and food... the hard working middle class' savings get destroyed and their real wages for a an hour of work get destroyed.

     
    #90     Aug 11, 2013