Discussion in 'Politics' started by trader1966, Jun 18, 2007.
Once again, Al Gore is a moron.
gotta love it:
Bryson didn't see Al Gore's movie about global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth."
"Don't make me throw up," he said. "It is not science. It is not true."
Gotta also love the attempted rubuttal ... "Co2 is rising, and man is the cause, and temperatures are rising, so therefore, we are all going to die ...", said the dingbat
"The Earth today stands in imminent peril
and nothing short of a planetary rescue will save it from the environmental cataclysm of dangerous climate change. Those are not the words of eco-warriors but the considered opinion of a group of eminent scientists writing in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. "
Man made global warming "opinion is unsupported by the evidence.
The salient facts are these. First, the accepted global average temperature statistics used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that no ground-based warming has occurred since 1998. Oddly, this eight-year-long temperature stasis has occurred despite an increase over the same period of 15 parts per million (or 4 per cent) in atmospheric CO2.
Second, lower atmosphere satellite-based temperature measurements, if corrected for non-greenhouse influences such as El Nino events and large volcanic eruptions, show little if any global warming since 1979, a period over which atmospheric CO2 has increased by 55 ppm (17 per cent).
Third, there are strong indications from solar studies that Earth's current temperature stasis will be followed by climatic cooling over the next few decades."
dcraig this is how the game is played. These guys are looking for government funding, of course they will predict a coming environmental apocalypse.
In the face of very very substantial evidence that CO2 emissions pose a huge risk to the climate of the planet, suggestions that climate scientists are just looking for government funding is ridiculous.
Right across the globe national science academies, professional associations of scientists, engineers, economists, doctors and others endorse the IPCC findings. It is a complete nonsense to suggest that they are all just in it for the (government) money.
Here is a challenge - show me one professional body that explicitly rejects the IPCC findings.
This would be a truly remarkable fraud job if they were all in collusion seeking tax payer funds to feather their nests. It is a nonsensical proposition.
Yeah, right after you show us one professional body that explicitly rejected global cooling in the 70's. lol.
Hmmm, A columnist in the Courier Mail - a Murdoch paper. Murdoch papers in Australia (including The Australian) regularly peddle this stuff. These are bland assetions in a newspaper column, subjected to no review at all.
The link to the Independent article was about a peer reviewed scientific paper published in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society.
Which deserves more weight ?
There is some very dishonest stuff posing as science being peddled by the GW "skeptics"
âthe Weather Channelâ Mess
January 18, 2007, 5:45 pm | James Spann | Op/Ed, Global Warming
Well, well. Some âclimate expertâ on âThe Weather Channelâ wants to take away AMS certification from those of us who believe the recent âglobal warmingâ is a natural process. So much for âtoleranceâ, huh?
I have been in operational meteorology since 1978, and I know dozens and dozens of broadcast meteorologists all over the country. Our big job: look at a large volume of raw data and come up with a public weather forecast for the next seven days. I do not know of a single TV meteorologist who buys into the man-made global warming hype. I know there must be a few out there, but I canât find them. Here are the basic facts you need to know:
*Billions of dollars of grant money is flowing into the pockets of those on the man-made global warming bandwagon. No man-made global warming, the money dries up. This is big money, make no mistake about it. Always follow the money trail and it tells a story. Even the lady at âThe Weather Channelâ probably gets paid good money for a prime time show on climate change. No man-made global warming, no show, and no salary. Nothing wrong with making money at all, but when money becomes the motivation for a scientific conclusion, then we have a problem. For many, global warming is a big cash grab.
*The climate of this planet has been changing since God put the planet here. It will always change, and the warming in the last 10 years is not much difference than the warming we saw in the 1930s and other decades. And, lets not forget we are at the end of the ice age in which ice covered most of North America and Northern Europe.
If you donât like to listen to me, find another meteorologist with no tie to grant money for research on the subject. I would not listen to anyone that is a politician, a journalist, or someone in science who is generating revenue from this issue.
In fact, I encourage you to listen to WeatherBrains episode number 12, featuring Alabama State Climatologist John Christy, and WeatherBrains episode number 17, featuring Dr. William Gray of Colorado State University, one of the most brilliant minds in our science.
WeatherBrains, by the way, is our weekly 30 minute netcast.
I have nothing against âThe Weather Channelâ, but they have crossed the line into a political and cultural region where I simply wonât go.
dcraig, how about this website endorsed by 17,000 scientists who all believe Global Warming has nothing to do with man made CO2 emissions.
Separate names with a comma.