The FairPut Initiative

Discussion in 'Journals' started by thecoder, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I repeat the question: You are saying the puts should be priced the same as calls, but how do you know if they are too cheap or calls are just expensive? Maybe the calls should be lowered, not the puts raised.

    Weren't they the 3 Stooges?
     
    #31     Aug 27, 2020
  2. destriero

    destriero


    BSM puts a volatility figure on a premium value. The edge is not in the relative value, per se, but predicting the shape of the forward curve as price moves. For example; there is edge in buying upside calendars/diags/calls in a high (put) RR-figure. You don't know why bc you're an idiot, but replacing BSM is a solution in search of a problem.

    Applying the model consistently is all you need to do. Sure, stuff under a buck suffers from microstructure, but BSM "has no hair." It's perfectly suitable for anything you would do with any size you would like to trade.

    Again, stop what you're doing and read... and stop posting.
     
    #32     Aug 27, 2020
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  3. thecoder

    thecoder

    Nope, you just misinterpret the said stuff.
    Calls and Puts can have different prices, but the payout must be equally proportional.
    This is best to understand when Call and Put have same initial premium. But it works also with different premiums (ie. due to different strike)...
     
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    #33     Aug 27, 2020
  4. thecoder

    thecoder

    Hey folks, please beware: this journal & discussion is not about trading strategies or specific option strategies.
    This is so to say just an academic research on developing a fair and consistent options pricing model. Nothing more, nothing less.
    So, please move discussions about trading strategies out of this area. Thx.
     
    #34     Aug 27, 2020
  5. destriero

    destriero


    Wrong (=proportion). I am done here. I'd ask to make a mkt for you, but you're broke AF. What is it with eurotrash and delusions of grandeur?
     
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    #35     Aug 27, 2020
  6. thecoder

    thecoder

    @destriero IMO 95% of your postings here so far have been off-topic.
    Please change that, or leave this journal.
     
    #36     Aug 27, 2020
  7. destriero

    destriero


    There is no topic.
     
    #37     Aug 27, 2020
  8. thecoder

    thecoder

    Fine! Just bye bye! Hope never to hear of you here again as you can nothing but being off-topic and insulting!
     
    #38     Aug 27, 2020
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    There is no such a thing since the selling of the option can be based on lots of things (stop loss, news, chart, strategy,etc) So the statement is just plain silly.
     
    #39     Aug 27, 2020
  10. traderjo

    traderjo

    Ok so one more time from the end user point of view
    If current method put assuming ES is @3000 a 3000 strike , 1 day left for expiry ATM PUT costs 10 points
    -what would your Fair PUT cost?
    - and would there be a difference in Delta?
    as a end user that is all I want to know rest is futile
     
    #40     Aug 27, 2020