The EV transition is real

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. I have no interest in an EV.
    I know no one personally who owns one.
    None of my neighbors have one, 1/2M homes.
    None of talk about buying one.
    I have three friends that have bought new cars in the past month.
    All ICE.

    The early adopters have them.
    The honeymoon is over.

    Only EV fanboys believe the transition is real.

    Glorified golf carts.
     
    #51     Apr 27, 2024
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  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    In that case trade it in for a "custom exotic" EV.

    Seems most exotic manufacturers are adding EV to their lineups. For a custom exotic owner, owning something exotic and green is the in thing.

    You sir need to keep up with your fellow Jones. :finger:
     
    #52     Apr 27, 2024
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    half time in Spain and half time in Singapore, sounds like fun. :thumbsup:
     
    #53     Apr 27, 2024
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  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    :wtf: that must be true, then.
     
    #54     Apr 27, 2024
  5. I do know a bunch of people who own Teslas, fewer people who own the new KIA electrics (EV6 is kinda nice if you into that kind of thing) and one guy who replaced his Panamera with Taycan. Living in tri-state area EVs make sense, maybe where you live they do not.

    golf carts with 0 to 60 that can smoke any muscle car :D
     
    #55     Apr 27, 2024
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  6. BMK

    BMK

    Where is all the electricity for the charging stations coming from?

    Nuclear power plants?

    Solar farms?

    Coal-fired power plants?
     
    #56     Apr 27, 2024
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    It comes from the plug.

     
    #57     Apr 27, 2024
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  8. I know ET is not into into nuance but this requires a nuanced answer.

    First of all, the mix of energy sources depends on the location and the current demand (i.e. it's complicated). In case of the coastal states, both solar and wind are actually pretty large contributors, but the exact fraction depends on the time and grid demand. So if you charge your EV during the day or after work, you get somewhat different sources of energy.

    Second of all, even hydro-carbon-based energy sources (e.g. oil/coal/natgas) tend to be cleaner when the energy is produced wholesale. Centralized power plants are generally more efficient and have better emissions controls than individual vehicles. This means that even if the electricity comes from coal or natural gas, the emissions per mile driven are still lower for electric vehicles compared to traditional cars.

    The usual "EV vs ICE" environmental breakdowns include the average grid composition and other stuff like battery disposal/recycling, though at some average cost and local cost might be different.
     
    #58     Apr 27, 2024
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  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    As the transition avances, the rejection is sounding more and more irrelevant, simplistic reactionary response from the boomer crowd. No matter how much data is there demonstrating the effectiveness of alternative energies, the rapid evolution of battery tech or the clear recognition that the paradigm shift is a longer term process.... Nothing will change their yapping.
     
    #59     Apr 28, 2024
  10. Demographic? In the $1.00m+, there are lots of independent and republican Trump voters driving them on days their Super Duty F‑450 is getting waxed.
     
    #60     Apr 28, 2024