The EV transition is real

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    Probably not, but I'm not big fan of winter so I'd never live in either of states to begin with.
     
    #21     Apr 21, 2024
  2. I forgot to mention the mileage. If you drive 10,000 miles a year, I would recommend an EV. If you drive only a couple thousand miles a year, an ICE car is better. Because after 15 years, the ICE engine will be like new but the EV battery will be dead.
     
    #22     Apr 21, 2024
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  3. birdman

    birdman

    There is talk about embedding electric charging infrastructure in highways to allow vehicles to charge while driving. The search results provide several examples of this technology being developed and tested:
    • Researchers at Cornell University are developing technology that can charge electric cars while they are in motion by embedding metal plates in the road that create alternating electric fields to power the vehicles.
    • Sweden is building the world's first permanent electrified highway by 2025 that would enable electric vehicles to charge while driving. The technology uses a conductive charging rail embedded in the road that transfers electricity to a receiver on the vehicle.
    • A pilot project in Milan, Italy has successfully demonstrated inductive charging technology that powers electric vehicles from coils embedded under the road surface while the vehicles are in motion.
    • Similar electrified road projects are also underway in Germany, Sweden, Israel, and the US state of Michigan.
    The key benefits of this technology are that it could allow electric vehicles to have smaller batteries and eliminate the need to stop and charge, making them more convenient and practical for long-distance driving. However, the high costs of retrofitting existing roads with the necessary infrastructure is seen as a major challenge to widespread adoption.
     
    #23     Apr 21, 2024
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Talk about paying a toll. Also the ability to track vehicles.

    Although same can be done currently with EasyPass or down here in Florida with SunPass. Though SP unit can be placed in a foil pouch if one chooses not to use it all the time. And there are certainly cameras out the ying yang wherever you go.

    But all this Jetsons stuff is still off in the distance. Norway is not the world.
     
    #24     Apr 21, 2024
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  5. VicBee

    VicBee

    All registered vehicles isn't a good measure because it's all registered vehicles, from motorcycles, cars, trucks to buses. California has a stated ban on the sale of ICE vehicles by 2035. You want to see how fast gas stations will shut down?
    California is in full transition. People are buying EVs but holding on to their ICE vehicle, just in case. If they are reassured with their EV, they will ditch the ICE. As the state EV infrastructure develops (more chargers, more repair shops, etc.) and conventional one disappears (longer distance to gas stations, higher gas prices, fewer repair shops, etc.) more people will give up their ICE vehicles. The fastest transition will come from single family home dwellers in urban and suburban zones and the slowest will come from those living in apartments and poorer rural communities.
    The transition to EV also has to account for generational change. 10% of the 27 million drivers license holders are 65 or older, and those who still drive will likely not switch in great numbers.
     
    #25     Apr 21, 2024
  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    Ok... From batteries can't survive lots of miles to batteries can't survive very few miles... It's another myth. While batteries do inconsistently degrade 1-2% a year based on a number of factors (and thus the 10 year life span and warranty), you can also expect significant battery cost reduction 10 years from now. A barely used ICE will last much longer but who buys a car based on low miles resale value 15 years from now. It's really looking for a gotcha! argument.
     
    #26     Apr 21, 2024
  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    Also, one of Tesla's rare company acquisitions is one that came up with a high inductive charging matt placed on your garage floor. It's not clear if Tesla plans on commercializing this or put it in a drawer and forget about it.
     
    #27     Apr 21, 2024
  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    Lol, that reminds me of my pastor brother who preferred to wait 20 mn in line at the bridge to pay cash rather than drive through with a trackable Fast Pass... The level of paranoia in the US is stunning.
     
    #28     Apr 21, 2024
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Would you dare visit a winter state in your EV?
     
    #29     Apr 21, 2024
  10. My neighbor has a KIA EV6. He does not seem to complain.
     
    #30     Apr 21, 2024