The EV transition is real

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. spy

    spy

    If you find a good one let me know... I'm genuinely interested. Until then I will continue to enjoy my new ICE 1.6 turbo DCT that I bought for a mere song and dance [sans subsidies] :cool:
     
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    #231     Jul 8, 2024
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  2. THAT's clear on the Clarity.LOL:D
    Gasoline ICE -combo wins again
     
    #232     Jul 8, 2024
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  3. spy

    spy

    Yeah, I'm going to buy an EV and just keep a ICE generator running in the trunk.
     
    #233     Jul 8, 2024
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  4. Specterx

    Specterx

    I’m not sure why you think it’s “an obvious thing to do”. Between the extra costs of installing the panels in a car body vs a fixed industrial-scale site chosen explicitly for its insolation, and the fact that most cars spend most of their time in garages, parked under trees or otherwise not exposed to the sun, the cost-benefit of such an arrangement must be minimal and far below installing the panels almost anywhere else.
     
    #234     Jul 8, 2024
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  5. spy

    spy

    You've taken me out of context, I said it seems like an obvious thing to do. I don't think most people give this kind of thought to their daily driver... they buy something that works and 10-15 years later, when it's falling apart at the seams, they buy another one. More than anything I think the buying decision is based on color and style.

    And, although I think there is great potential for EVs in the long term. In the short term, there are a huge number of obstacles... genuine consumer education is certainly one of them. The lack of infrastructure is another as well as a large upfront cost. The used-car market is still big too (maybe we should be talking about carmax instead). In addition, I don't think subsidies are a reasonable answer.

    So, right now, there's a lot of uncertainty in my eyes. The earliest I see reasonably wide-spread adoption is... idk.... 15 years? That's way too far out to forecast for my comfort.

    Fwiw, in my own experience, I only know one person with an EV, they barely drive, and it is not even their only car. It amounts to virtue signalling and conspicuous consumption. You wanna do something good for the environment right now... pedal a bicycle; I do and love it!

    P.S. Great thread title though!
     
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  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Same. Multiple ICE vehicles in many of the (uhhh upper income) households I've been to.

    Pedal power on days when humidity is not atrocious down here, which this time of the year is .... always. I either get out early or later on in eve.

    And we don't need no stinkin' electric bikes, though those are popular too. Lazy azzes.
     
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  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    If you want to see what tomorrow looks like today in the US, you'll want to spend time in California where EV adoption is highest. And if you really want to have your mind blown away, you should take a drive across the Golden Gate Bridge to Marin County and Mill Valley. There, you will find that 2/3 of vehicles are EVs, primarily Tesla, and that 90% of the houses have solar roofs and Powerwalls. The region isn't a bubble, it's the spearhead of what is to become in CA within 10-15 years.
     
    #238     Jul 8, 2024
  9. spy

    spy

    Ok, I'll take your word for it. A bit of advice though... you're not going to beat people into submission. If you can't convince them with your reasoning just let it go; less stress bruv.

     
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  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    #240     Jul 9, 2024
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