the end of UK.. RIP.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Batman28, Jan 18, 2009.

  1. Isn't the Mafia still very much present in Italy? And all politicians benefit.

    As for the UK, I finally understand why all the big brother laws were put in place. The earth will tremble with the wrath of the people, they want to get ready and stay in power. Here's a hint : you bankrupt a country, you have no authority to stay in power.

    And BuyHiSellLo is a clown, I had him on ignore and forgot he ever existed.
     
    #91     Jan 19, 2009

  2. You'd be surprised how many are thinking and feeling what you are expressing. I just fear that moving to another country would do very little. The globalists have turned over every stone. Trust me, I've looked. There could indeed be a few hang-outs. Places like Abu Dhabi and Dubai come to mind, however, these are fairly artificial systems and based on a constitutional monarchy.

    Have a look at the following article. The idea is basically to bring the Anglo-American countries back to a 19th century style manufacturing power (one the laborers will not reap the benfits from this time around). I have been thinking this for a long time as this would switch the economic roles of counties like China and the USA. Those who saved will be the future consumers and those who got into debt will have to work it off. You might not want to live in these countries, but investing in them might be a good prospect for the future.


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    #92     Jan 19, 2009
  3. tradersboredom

    tradersboredom Guest

    what the economy needs is cheaper efficient less polluting source sustainable source of energy.

    business in taxes, gov't regulation, and legal cost in law suits and business insurance car is health insurance suck the economy of capital.




     
    #93     Jan 19, 2009
  4. I only joined in August so how could you forget I existed you stupid bastard.
     
    #94     Jan 19, 2009
  5. The U.K. is a welfare state, from cradle to grave.

    Sadly, much of Western Europe is as bad or worse.

    Whoever said that life in the U.K. is overtaxed, over-regulated, over-governed - you hit the nail on the head.

    You have to pay a congestion charge just to drive into downtown London. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/congestioncharging/

    The top tax rate is shockingly high. Burdens on business are onerous, to say the least. The government is filled with pompous windbags who espouse philosophy and engage in esoteric debates all day long.

    The Brits are a vanquished lot that still want to feel as if their once mighty navy bestows the kind of prestige and power that it did during their glory years, when they colonized as an exercise in ego boosting.

    The crash in housing prices in England will make what we're experiencing here in the U.S. mild, on a relative basis (London proper will crash, too, but not as hard, as there really is extremely limited supply).

    Ireland will grow at a much faster clip than England over the next century, as the Irish are brass tacks, doers, and the English are theater goers wallowing in their perceived glorious past. Ireland has a business friendly tax structure and government, while England has an oppressive regulatory scheme and crushing tax structure.
     
    #95     Jan 19, 2009
  6. bffft none of this is a big deal. The strength of economies lies in consumers buying stuff, increased productuion & productivity, and technological growth. The RBS means nothing to anyone except the people of Scottland.
     
    #96     Jan 19, 2009
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    And how is this relevant to the current UK situation?
     
    #97     Jan 19, 2009
  8. They give fresh ideas to the british government?

    It's not me who brought up Italy in this.
     
    #98     Jan 19, 2009
  9. So what is your point? You are essentially admitting that Italy, Greece and similiar nations with weak, corrupted economies are leeches and benefactors at the expense of successful nations. Socialism at its finest.

    The relationship is not complex, it's simple. You want their products, you buy it. If the seller does not accept your currency, you have exchange it to theirs. The debasing of your nation's currency is not the seller's problem, it is your nation's problem. If your corrupt government is the cause, then DEAL with it. Like the saying goes: "The people deserve the government they get"

    But at least without the Euro, the people had more potential power over their national government & currency. With European Central Bank in charge, you have little to no power, short of a revolution or complete disobedience.
     
    #99     Jan 19, 2009
  10. A common currency is a beneficiary to trade, it's a known fact.
     
    #100     Jan 19, 2009