The End of (the catholic) Church

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Free Thinker, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Correction: fertilized eggs, not sperm. Let's get our idols straight.
     
    #41     Feb 22, 2012
  2. Careful there. We just might have a stake with your name carved on it, ya know...

    Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. Yum!

    :p
     
    #42     Feb 22, 2012
  3. many believe biblegod is also all powerful. so if biblegod is all all knowing and all powerful, and some eggs die ,god knew they were going to die and having the ability, being all powerful, to keep them alive if he chose must be ok with some eggs dying.
    logic is a wonderful thing if you are not afraid to use it. try it sometime.


    Let me see here:
    God created time, but the process of deciding to create time requires time itself;
    God created the perfect universe.. which is 99,999..% hostile and chaotic;
    God is Benevolent but created Hell;
    God is Omnipotent but can not control Satan;
    God is Omniscient, but humans have "free will" and He does not know our final destination (heaven/hell);
     
    #43     Feb 22, 2012
  4. jem

    jem

    did chavez pull this same shit when he took over.
    Oh look you are losing freedom... but my commie newpaper and blogging team will change the subject.
     
    #44     Feb 22, 2012
  5. we are gaining freedom. the freedom for women to choose when and how many kids they will have.
    when the government took away the freedom of one man to own another man as a slave was that good or bad? did we lose freedom or gain freedom?


    "We Have A Responsibility…as unbelievers, we have a responsibility to the future of our species to do whatever we can to disseminate the science and eliminate the myth."
     
    #45     Feb 22, 2012
  6. jem

    jem

    chavez troll. You are attempting to make this a referendum on whether birth control is good or bad. But that is not what this is commie.

    Your leftist junta is issuing executive orders attempting to force the Church to provide drugs which kill babies. Only Orwellian trolls would call that gaining freedom.
     
    #46     Feb 22, 2012
  7. really showing you maturity there jem. all kinds of childish names. im shaking in my boots now.

    cognitive dissonance — the intellectual crisis that occurs when a failed belief system or philosophy is confronted with proof of its implausibility. ...
     
    #47     Feb 22, 2012
  8. jem

    jem

    changing the subject again. Now what your faith that there is no creator of the universe is some sort of superior mindset. Isn't that a bit totalitarian? Where is your tolerance you bigot.

    remember it was the Church and a Polish Pope who bankrupted the Church itself supporting freedoms in Poland. No wonder leftists like you are out to take it down piece by piece.
     
    #48     Feb 22, 2012
  9. Defination of troll according to jem:


    troll - someone who disagrees with jem on an Internet forum
     
    #49     Feb 22, 2012
  10. you think maybe billion dollar settlements for covering up that priests were raping little boys behind the alter hurt a little bit too?



    You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.”
    — Bertrand Russell
     
    #50     Feb 22, 2012