The End of the American Dream

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 2cents, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. Cesko

    Cesko

    Yawn

    How many times have I heard about inequality? Like 2 million times? Truly original thought. Personally I don't mind not to be "an elite". In Eastern Europe we were all equal. I know how it feels.

    EQUALITY=POVERTY

    Unfortunately for lots of lefty assholes it is hard to comprehend.
     
    #11     Sep 14, 2006
  2. Pabst

    Pabst

    Right on Cesko. Just consider how wages paid averages are brought down by Mexican's and other 3rd world immigrants who by U.S. standards are in "poverty" but by personal standards are toiling in affluence relative to their life back home. The U.S. rocks.
     
    #12     Sep 14, 2006
  3. Bob111

    Bob111

  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    “End of American Dream”, yeah right! I came to this country with less than a grand and almost no English. Currently, in the top 5 percent of income bracket, and are moving higher at the ladder. Anyone who has brain and desire can really succeed in this great country. Anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or envious.

    Equality=Poverty (totally agree as experienced it first hand)

    redduke
     
    #14     Sep 14, 2006
  5. Midas

    Midas

    For the employee types; times will get worse before they get better as average wages are not going up anytime soon.

    The innovative, opportunistic, risk taking entrepreneur (the true backbone of America) has more opportunity today than ever before......
     
    #15     Sep 15, 2006
  6. Yeah, equality, that's it.

    I don't see anyone in the Economist article touting equality. You should know the typical libertarian slant the Economist has. I'm sure you must think those filthy, socialist, jackbooted scum from the Economist want you to raise your taxes and redistribute your wealth to the poor, however. Better introduce them to von mises, Cesko! Stop women from voting!

    Bonehead logic sees left-right conflicts everywhere and can't understand the economy is a system, not an ideological playground. That system produces predictable effects in society when wealth and power becomes polarized in one way or another. Cause and effect is pretty simple to understand.
     
    #16     Sep 15, 2006
  7. Cesko

    Cesko

    You are right, the article doesn't take the side.
    It is really amazing that you call ME a rabid ideolog, basically. Let's go step by step. There is a thread called "THE END OF AMERICAN DREAM", your contribution is an article about inequality and you acuse me of politizing the issue? WTF? Talk about bonehead logic.
    If you read my post reeeaal slow (I know you have a problem with that) you should get an impression that I am kind of tired of inequality vs. equality bullshit. I reacted to your post not the article itselfPeople have always been inequal, they are inequal and they will be in a future no matter what. So get over it. Lefties just use the issue for their own good and people like you repeat it mindlessly.
    If you really want to know something on the subject of "Struggle for equality"
    read Gustave Le Bon. I forgot which book of his talks about the subject but you, most likely, don't care. I think you are an American who they taught long time ago how to think. You are pretty much set in your ways. I apologize for "women right to vote" remarks I know it's hurtful to you. Otherwords, it goes against the very core of your religion.

    P.S. If you believe that BBC article was strictly economic article you are naive. During the old times in Eastern Europe we have constantly heard about "economic reality in the U.S." and it was strictly political garbage.
     
    #17     Sep 16, 2006
  8. Make what?
    For what it is worth, personnel spending power peaked in the 1970s and has been on the decline since, however the opportunity to make real money has never been greater than it is now.
    The problem for the big earners ( the american dream) is how to enjoy the lifestyle that should accompany wealth.
     
    #18     Sep 16, 2006
  9. Millano

    Millano

    We know we must rock when we can say we're better than Mexico.

    That is an argument a lot of people make. It's very elitist... trying to rank people by intelligence, as if the less intelligent don't deserve anything (typical American). The mental gifts that you were born with, are of no work of your own. It's just like being born into a rich family, and saying "hey, I have a high income, so anyone can".

    And does equality really equal poverty? Most highly developed countries have a far more equal distribution of income, and they tend to have less poverty...
    The poorest countries tend to be the ones with the most unequal income distribution.
     
    #19     Sep 16, 2006
  10. Eh, I am not interested in going into this further. Froth away at someone else :D

    (btw, I am American yes, but not by birth).
     
    #20     Sep 16, 2006