The End of America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ARealGannTrader, May 19, 2009.

  1. nevadan

    nevadan

    The only outright error in Wolf's presentation I saw was her reference to the founder's association with the posse comitatus act. In actual fact it was the result of the Northern occupation of former Confederate states after the Civil War.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
    It does seem a little incongruous to see her as such an ardent Constitutionalist after her cheerful support of big government social programs and her buddy Al Gore in the past. While it is true that she is a "leftie" and no doubt has a grudge against Bush, the encroachments of government should give pause for thought. Civil liberties are at risk more than ever. It is foolish to assume that since "this is America it couldn't happen here."
     
    #51     May 20, 2009
  2. sumosam

    sumosam

    Awareness is a good thing. I am a student of cycle theory and read that during depressions socialism is more widespread. Perhaps there is a natural ebb of flow in this regard.

    In my experience, true freedom is inner freedom...that is something no one can deny.
     
    #52     May 20, 2009
  3. U know Pabst, u seem to be a pretty smart guy. Definitely on point will some of ur political analysis.

    The trouble is that most constitutionalists, and states rightists, have a nasty image problem.

    It would seem that a lot of constitutionalists want the constitution and states rights because they want to disenfranchise the usual suspects, u know who they are as u have spoken of them.

    As u must also know, there is no such animal in the public mind as an "educated bigot." This could be the media, but this last election would suggest otherwise.

    This lady speaks ur language it would seem, but does not want to expel blacks and Jews, and disenfranchise women and non landholders. That kind of talk is what conjures up the Third Reich.

    I am not suggesting that u personally want this, but the perception is widespread that, "patriots" and "real americans" seem to have an affinity for exclusion.

    This Wolfe seems to be different. I hope that she is wrong, but she makes a compelling case.
     
    #53     May 20, 2009
  4. ARealGannTrader, what do you think the odds are that any of the people who are pissing on this thread have watched the video? Or even only half of it? Or at least one segment in its entirety? Meanwhile, they liken Obama to Hitler while the documentary evidence presented suggests that the Bush administration stole the Nazi playbook. Fascinating.
     
    #54     May 20, 2009
  5. Either of you ever heard of Libertarianism? You opposed to that also? Back to the question of what Wolf might think of Obama. From the liberal standpoint, probably so but regarding individual rights, I doubt it. If you cannot see the attempt at limiting Americans rights (and that means all Americans} you are either naive or blind.
     
    #55     May 20, 2009
  6. In truth Tdog, I hope that it is not the case, that they did watch the video. I have read Mein Kampf, and the Communist Manifesto.
    I know that citizens of P&R, are self selected, and most have lived a while, and have given to their nation in some sort of service. I would hope that they do not dismiss the message because they don't like the messenger.

    It is also good to c a couple of Canadians on this board.

    If the NWO is to leave us with any rights at all, Canada will have to help the United States. Mexico is a given to fall, it is nearly a failed state.

    Canadians however are proud of the liberty that the u do have. We will need ur help. The EU will squeeze the English from what I c, so that will leave the United States and Canada to deal with what is undoubtably creeping fascism.

    Now if u guys can only ditch that God Save the Queen stuff:D :D
     
    #56     May 20, 2009
  7. Precisely.

    Have u noticed that Obama has not overturned anything related to the "War on Terror"?

    We had a popular president who would not play ball the right way. The rumor is that Langley didn't like that one little bit.

    It's just a rumor tho.:)
     
    #57     May 20, 2009
  8. I think the point is that u sound partisan in ur critiques.
     
    #58     May 20, 2009
  9. Hmmm.

    She doesn't carry herself like a feminist. She wears skirts, has long hair, wears heels. She seem to b all American Woman from appearances. She simply doesnt think women should be barefoot and pregnant, and I agree.

    Ann Coulter, on the other hand................lets just say that if a startling confession comes out later on, I would not exactly be surprised.
     
    #59     May 20, 2009
  10. There are patriots, but they are looking to find another avenue than the caricature that some groups have made out of "patriots"
     
    #60     May 20, 2009