The Emini Mastro taking a $1,500 side account to $1M in 14 months

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Emini Maestro, Nov 2, 2009.

  1. As silly as it sounds...it may be of benefit for the trader to miss 3 trades after each 5 point winner and then commence trading...just a crazy thought...

    BTW what broker will let you go down to the bare bones...I understand that most brokers turn off the lights after less than $2000 balance...:eek:
     
    #91     Dec 7, 2009
  2. yes - I suppose you would request someone to be banned than to actually make an intelligent response.

    Seriously, stop drinking before you post.
     
    #92     Dec 7, 2009
  3. Rohok

    Rohok

    I guess this settled the matter.
     
    #93     Dec 7, 2009
  4. LOL that may work too depending on what kind of setup we are talking about.

    2K balance - some has the threshold, like velocity, some do not.

    At 2K balance, there is still 3K to blow, that is 20 times the 3 pt stop. Making it almost double as difficult as having 4.5K as the buffer.
     
    #94     Dec 8, 2009
  5. JSS illustrated another way to do it.

    With low winning %, you can go for very high reward for the winners. so at less than 50% winning, if the model can produce 15+ pts on some of the winners consistently and losing only max 5 pts on the losers, that will work well too.

    In fact, I prefer this method over high % winning because the dependency on an edge in entry is reduced.

    But that requires a bigger bank roll to start with.

    e.g. 5 pts x 30 = 7500 to start
     
    #95     Dec 8, 2009
  6. rcanfiel versus bestguruever. ufc match troll vs troll. epic comedy!
     
    #96     Dec 8, 2009
  7. Rohok

    Rohok

    Isn't this the double edge sword we all live under? The difficulty of "letting your profits run"?

    Even if you could go 15 up to 5 down, how would you be able to manage stops to catch a 15 point run without being stopped?

    Maybe you could have some type of stepped profit taking executions followed by instant new orders to ensure you are catching the move without risking downside or loss of time.

    Still pretty hard.
     
    #97     Dec 8, 2009
  8. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    That is the hardest part in trading & is based on faith. Problem comes from fear of a loss. That's why sim trading is easy, whereas pro trading is not. So it is faith vs fear of a loss. So you have to analyse why is sim easier than pro. No real fear of a loss vs real fear of a loss. The conclusion is to reduce real size to an amount that fear of a loss does not interfere with faith in a backtested method. Yes that might make trading awfully sluggish as far as equity curve is concerned, but you will come out as a winner. Alternatively, you have to find a high win rate system which matches Blackjack's payouts :)
     
    #98     Dec 9, 2009
  9. bpcnabe

    bpcnabe

    Blowup?
     
    #99     Dec 18, 2009
  10. Sorry gentlemen, and the rest of you, I mistook Elite Trader to be a place where successful traders assembled online. It is not, and I will waste no more time here. If I wanted negativity as the norm in the people I associate with, I would visit my local homeless shelter. This place is death.
     
    #100     Jan 12, 2010