The Effectiveness of Wearing a Mask Against Covid-19

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BeautifulStranger, Jul 13, 2020.

How Effective is Personal Protection Equipment use by the Public in Reducing Covid-19 Transmission.

  1. Completely effective with proper use.

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  2. Very effective in spite of the improper use of PPE by some members of the public.

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  3. May help in some cases, but overall, wearing PPE will not significantly reduce transmission rate.

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  4. Public utilization of PPE will make no difference in the spread of Covid-19.

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  5. PPE worn by the public will be counter productive and actually increase the spread of Covid-19.

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  1. userque

    userque

    I understand. But my question is not about whether you are ok with others wearing them.

    Again, I'm trying to understand how you've come to the conclusions you've stated, and I quoted twice, in response to the specific scenario I asked you about.

    It seems odd that a logical person would conclude that sunlight would kill the virus while its on it's way to the next person four feet away, which could take less than a few seconds.

    Same goes for thinking that the virus can't travel further than "shoulder to shoulder."

    Refresher, emphasis added:

    In my mind, clearly, sunlight doesn't "kill all germs, bacteria, viruses" in the environment.

    And clearly science and common logic dictates that all viruses can travel further than "shoulder to shoulder."

    So again, what am I missing about your understanding of this virus?
     
    #31     Jul 14, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So you don't believe that rays from sunlight inactivate viruses or bacteria?
     
    #32     Jul 14, 2020
  3. userque

    userque

    Not within a time-frame that would prevent others from becoming infected.

    That's why I'm asking you to explain how you could believe such a thing...along with my other question.
     
    #33     Jul 14, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So its a matter of subjectivity, then. Distance between people, lack of or excess wind speed, interaction, sun strength, etc. All these factor into the time it takes to inactivate viruses on the surface or in the air (which fall to the surface). So you think they wouldn't, I think they would.

    That's really all it comes down to. I was there, you weren't. If you want to post an empirical study that allows us to input variables and determine the time to inactivity, I'd happily participate.

    What was the other question?
     
    #34     Jul 14, 2020
  5. userque

    userque

    Thanks, nothing further. Things are clear now.
     
    #35     Jul 14, 2020
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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    What she said was simple, factual according to the data they had but misinterpreted.

    A distinction was made between asymptomatic and pre-symtomatic/a typically symptomatic.

    They have records of very few people who have tested positive and never went on to develop symptoms of any kind. These people through contact tracing also appear to not spread virus they can detect.

    She was careful but speaking in an expert to experts manner. A doctors idea of asymptomatic is different from they layman.
     
    #36     Jul 14, 2020
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    People are racing to buy face masks amid the coronavirus outbreak, but they probably won't protect you from illness
    https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-face-masks-not-entirely-effective-2020-1?op=1
    Of the many preventative measures you can take to protect yourself from the new coronavirus, wearing a face mask is one of the most visible. But for members of the general public, health experts don't think it'll help much.

    "There's little harm in it," Eric Toner, a scientist at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, told Business Insider. "But it's not likely to be very effective in preventing it."
     
    #37     Jul 14, 2020
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Notice how in the one mask scenario the smoke never reaches the other person.
     
    #38     Jul 14, 2020
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Have you ever been tested? Seriously for a moment, you can see its an illustration. Probably cold air, the 2nd person just a mirror flip. You could question if it represented reality but.. You go with what you said?
     
    #39     Jul 14, 2020
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Do you have a picture that shows the virus going far?
     
    #40     Jul 14, 2020