I'm an avid reader of TheStreet.com and Realmoney.com. However, I'm only a part time trader (hence PTTrader) and I've enjoyed learning from this group in the past 8 months or so. Magna, Hitman, Rtharp, etc. have really given some insight that I've felt helpful and I appreciate it. Recently, I began to feel that discussion wasn't enough, so I wanted to trt the trading rooms of most of the traders on Traders Track. I was in MTrader's this week and I'm still laughing. I see Ken Wolf calling VRSN bottoms plenty of times (call the bottom until we get it right approach I guess). He even says to dump VRSN after one of the buys because he doesn't trust the CEO that appeared on CNBC. If that is a reason to go long and short, I'm reading the wrong books. Then Shawn Wolf going on Traders Track saying they were short oriented, and somehow got the final "bottom". I wonder if Shawn is just Ken's alter ego. Heck, I think Janet and Michael Jackson may be the same also. Kidding. Here's the logs from both of them..Tell me please. Were they long or short? After this past week of the trial, I guess discussion boards will be JUST FINE. Thanks again guys. 10/26/01 08:51:46 <echo2> KenWolff _ 05:57:33 VRSN getting a bit of buying.. 10/26/01 08:52:11 <echo2> KenWolff _ 05:57:57 yeah.. we should see VRSN over 48 today.. â 10/26/01 08:53:45 <echo2> KenWolff _ 05:59:32 nope BOBO.. it is printing around 47 10/26/01 09:07:25 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:13:12 _ INDICATOR _ MY BEST CHEAPIE TRADE IS AVAN,,, NORMALLY A BIZ WEEK STOCK WILL CLIMB EARLY,,, SO IT SHOULD NOT GO UNDER 4.20 AND SHOULD GO CLOSE TO 5... I EXPECT AN EARLY CLIMB ON VRSN ALSO 10/26/01 09:18:14 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:24:01 VRSN may come back down near the support at 47... like HLIT did.. 10/26/01 09:27:39 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:33:26 _ INDICATOR _ MSFT CLIMBING OUT OF THE BOX... BUEYRS ARE STARTING TO MOVE IN.. I WOULD BUY VRSN SOON,,, SHOULD BOTTOM 10/26/01 09:30:15 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:36:02 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ I DOUBT VRSN WILL GO UNDER 46,, LOOK FOR A BOTTOM SOON 10/26/01 09:30:30 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:36:17 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ UNDER IT GOES 10/26/01 09:31:04 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:36:50 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ VRSN REMINDS ME OF BRCD YESTERDAY,,, IT SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD BOTTOM 10/26/01 09:31:45 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:37:32 _ INDICATOR _ OK I AM SEEING WIDER SPREAD BUYING.. I WOULD GO LONG VRSN 10/26/01 09:35:35 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:41:21 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ IF VRSN DOES NOT GO OVER 46 SOON DUMP IT 10/26/01 09:37:52 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:43:39 disappointed Jack... VRSN should have climbed over 46 easy.. 10/26/01 09:39:39 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:45:26 I woudl buy the next bottom again on VRSN below 45.50 ... It can go as low as 45,, but I doubt it.. 10/26/01 09:40:14 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:46:01 _ INDICATOR _ WE HAVE FAIRLY GOOD EARLY BUYING.. WE ARE NOT DONE YET SO VRSN CAN STILL MOVE UP,,, BUT RISK IS HIGHER NOW DUE TO IT NOT GOING OVER 46 MUCH.. 10/26/01 09:42:22 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:48:09 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ VRSN IS COMING DOWN,, SHOULD BOTTOM ABOVE 45,,, I WOUDL TRY THIS NEXT BOTTOM ONE MORE TIME 10/26/01 09:43:35 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:49:22 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ VRSN DID NOT HOLD 45,,, 10/26/01 09:43:52 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:49:39 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ VRSN SHOULD BOTTOM SOON 44,80 IS MY GUESS 10/26/01 09:44:00 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:49:47 _ GET READY TO TRADE _ VRSN BOUNCING 10/26/01 09:46:47 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:52:33 _ CLOSE TRADE consideration _ I WOULD GET OUT OF LONG POSITIONS NOW EXCEPT VRSN 10/26/01 09:54:11 <echo2> KenWolff _ 06:59:58 VRSN third bottom coming up... not a dumper.. but it is a weak un.... not good.. 10/26/01 10:02:16 <echo2> KenWolff _ 07:08:03 yeah eagle,, third bottom was 44.09 on VRSN 10/26/01 10:09:45 <echo2> KenWolff _ 07:15:32 _ INDICATOR _ NEW HIGH ON QCOM,,, WE MAY SEE GOOD BUYING TODAY AGAIN,,, 10/26/01 10:11:36 <echo2> KenWolff _ 07:17:23 _ INDICATOR _ WE APPEAR TO BE TOPPING AGAIN... 10/26/01 10:26:57 <echo2> KenWolff _ 07:32:44 VRSN on CNBC 10/26/01 10:31:02 <echo2> KenWolff _ 07:36:49 we better dump VRSN... this guy is not to be trusted 10/26/01 11:11:46 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:17:33 44 is the third bottom... but it is not a dumper either eagle.. I would be surprised to see it go under 44... 10/26/01 11:28:13 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:34:00 _ LONG consideration _ I WOULD BUY THIS NEXT BOTTOM ON VRSN 10/26/01 11:28:38 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:34:25 10 dollar drop,,, should be bottoming around 43.. 10/26/01 11:28:58 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:34:45 42 is about 20%... amazing.. 10/26/01 11:29:34 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:35:22 yeah.. still dropping.. should stop soon 10/26/01 11:32:25 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:38:12 boy these guys are mean.. stocks can drop almighty fast.. 10/26/01 11:36:49 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:42:36 I think VRSN is at a bottom.. I doubt it will go lower... it should rise.. 10/26/01 11:38:03 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:43:51 Nawww.. wasn't worth a 10 dollar hit... crazy traders.. 10/26/01 11:38:18 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:44:05 their pain is our gain... 10/26/01 11:39:56 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:45:44 VRSN can hit 40 before it heads up again... but for a daytrade it should be good off the last bottom... amazing selling.. 10/26/01 11:50:04 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:55:51 time to buy some VRSN 10/26/01 11:50:39 <echo2> KenWolff _ 08:56:27 might have to stomach a drop to about 40 though.. 10/26/01 13:48:48 <echo2> KenWolff _ 10:54:35 up to you mwyerd.. this selling down to 43 is a negative sign... 44.70 now is not looking likely.. 10/26/01 13:49:55 <echo2> KenWolff _ 10:55:43 VRSN should held 43.70... if it were going higher than the previous high..44 10/26/01 14:46:34 <echo2> KenWolff _ 11:52:22 yeah. cannot squeek 2 bucks out of VRSN.. sad deal.. Shawn Wolff VRSN 10/26/01 11:43 AM ET Verisign (VRSN:Nasdaq) has continued to sell all morning. Based on the lack of pre-market support, we have been more short-oriented on the stock. As we near 42.67 though, we are watching with more interest for support. The â20% barrier tends to be a predictable barrier for large percentage dumpers. We are moving in with a long off that barrier, but keeping a tight stop just under that barrier. AMGN, VRSN 10/26/01 1:21 PM ET I am still long-oriented. Amgen (AMGN:Nasdaq) is still plugging along, and Verisign (VRSN:Nasdaq) is a little hesitant, but seems to have stabilized some off the â20% barrier, so Iâm trailing stops a little loosely there.