The Deniers told us COVID doesn't hurt Children

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 16, 2021.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #341     Feb 21, 2022
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yet a study using the Covid health database in the U.K showed the following -- using a cohort that was infected and one that was not.

    Long covid: One in seven children may still have symptoms 15 weeks after infection, data show
    https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2157

    A large study of children and young people who caught SARS-CoV-2 has found that as many as one in seven (14%) may still have symptoms 15 weeks later.1 However, this figure is lower than in some studies that have reported a prevalence of long covid as high as 51% in children and young people.


    Speaking at a Science Media Centre briefing, the study’s lead author, Terence Stephenson, who is Nuffield professor of child health at the UCL Great Ormond Street Institute of Child Health in London, said, “It is reassuring that the figures were lower than the worst case scenarios predicted last December. However, they are not of trivial importance.”

    The Children and Young People with Long Covid (Clock) study is published as a preprint and has not yet been peer reviewed. But its strengths are that it is nationally representative, relies on PCR proven covid status, and includes a covid negative comparison control group.

    The researchers contacted young people aged 11-17 from the database of test results held by Public Health England from January to March 2021. They sent questionnaires to 220 000 young people in England and received 17 000 responses.

    This preliminary analysis included 3065 young people who had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and a matched cohort of 3739 who had tested negative. Both groups completed detailed questionnaires three months after their test.

    The researchers found that 15 weeks after their PCR test 66.5% of people who had tested positive and 53.3% of those who had tested negative had one or more symptoms. About 30% of those who had tested positive for covid-19 had three or more symptoms, compared with 16% of those who tested negative. This enabled the researchers to conclude that 14% of people who test positive for covid have persistent symptoms. The most common symptoms reported were headaches and tiredness.

    The high numbers of young people who tested negative reporting symptoms at 15 weeks may be explained by tiredness being common in this age group generally and the survey period coinciding with the return of school after lockdown and a likely increase in non-covid infections.

    (More at above url)


    There are multiple studies from respected sources on Long Covid involving children coming out of the U.K. data. One important trend to note is that with the Omicron wave child endured many more cases, hospitalizations, and Long Covid diagnoses than with previous Covid variant waves. The currently available completed studies generally only reflect the Delta wave & earlier. Of course the anti-vax Covid deniers only push this single Danish study while ignoring all the others showing a significant impact of Long Covid on children.
     
    #342     Feb 21, 2022
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So I post something showing you a study where a tiny percentage of kids have "long covid" and the ones that do resolve themselves in 1 to 5 months.

    You post something that says they may have symptoms 15 weeks after infection. How many months is 15 weeks, NPC?
     
    #343     Feb 22, 2022
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So now you suddenly think that having more data — which includes a control group — in suddenly bad after you “demand” data all the time. Plus you think that children suffering from Long Covid for months is not a problem. SAD.
     
    #344     Feb 22, 2022
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Where did I say it was bad? All I said is that your info and mine coincide. Reading comprehension, NPC.
     
    #345     Feb 22, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #346     Feb 23, 2022
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao


    One or two out of every 100 children who get COVID-19 may experience long-haul COVID-19 side effects such as fatigue, shortness of breath, anxiety and depression, regardless of the severity of the initial infection.

    Additionally, one out of every 3,200 children will develop multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C), which is a rare condition wherein different body parts become inflamed. This includes the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain and eyes. If left untreated, the child may have lasting organ damage. In severe cases, the child may die of MIS-C.
    Ah. So a child gets COVID, and then 1 or 2 out of 3,200 develop MIS-C, and then 1.7% of those might die from MIS-C based on mortality rates of MIS-C (which occurs from other things as well), while the balance essentially recover fully.

    Uh huh.
     
    #347     Feb 23, 2022
  8. traderob

    traderob

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ould-offered-children-young-five-next-spring/

    Vaccinating primary school children is premature, Britain’s top paediatric body has said, after it emerged those as young as five could be offered the Covid jab next spring.

    The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) on Saturday night called for better real-world evidence of the risks to the heart before widening the rollout further.

    It came after leaked NHS documents revealed provisional plans to offer the vaccine to children aged five to 11 in the first half of 2022.

    Young children face a miniscule risk of serious disease from Covid-19 itself. A recent study showed only six healthy children have died from the virus in England.

    However, there are concerns surrounding a very small risk of a heart inflammation condition called myocarditis from the Pfizer jab.

    Any decision to offer the jab to primary school-aged children would almost certainly be made to protect wider society, rather than the individuals themselves
     
    #348     Feb 23, 2022
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #349     Feb 24, 2022
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao


     
    #350     Mar 1, 2022