The DEBT BUBBLE and GREENSPAN.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by W4rl0ck, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. gnome

    gnome

    Not that it matters (they are more-or-less "hand in glove"), but my view is that you have it backwards.
     
    #11     Nov 19, 2008
  2. That's why the previous record credit expansion occurred during the economic boom times known as the Great Depression.
     
    #12     Nov 19, 2008
  3. this chart is a few months old too....we are at 51 trillion in total credit market debt and around 14.3 trillion in GPD now which puts us around 356% of GDP. not good at all.
     
    #13     Nov 19, 2008
  4. jordanf

    jordanf

    Looking at that chart, I find it hard to believe that credit expanded so much from 1929-1933. I assume the spike on this chart during those years is due to contraction of GDP.
     
    #14     Nov 19, 2008
  5. gnome

    gnome

    You don't think that credit expansion was an attempt to reignite the economy? Or, the ratio is high because the denominator (GDP) shrank so much?
     
    #15     Nov 19, 2008
  6. Mecro

    Mecro

    Do you have any reference to show that Greenspan as the Fed Chairman gets dictator-like powers?
     
    #16     Nov 19, 2008
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    I do believe the voice of Ronnie Reagan is speaking to us from the grave. Obviously we are not borrowing enough to allow us to spend enough to get this economy rolling, and start having fun again. We sure could use a few more real expensive wars in these hard times. Too bad. (a)Sap, George Bush didn't learn of your economic prowess in time to tap you for Treasury Secretary or Fed Chairman!:D
     
    #17     Nov 19, 2008
  8. hawk24

    hawk24

    need a total war
     
    #18     Nov 19, 2008
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    When the market or economy tumbles, he lower rates and floods it with money. Proclaimed a "Maestro" and leaves right before everything collapsed. I was shocked at this:

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    Wow.

    Of course he had helped from the other clowns:

    "If we all join hands and go buy a new SUV, everything will be all right," Bob McTeer, Dallas Fed governor

    "What we dearly want is for Americans to spend like Americans – to do the patriotic thing and go out and spend," Bill McDonough, head of the New York Fed, October '01.
     
    #19     Nov 19, 2008
  10. charts

    charts

    Today's economic crisis is not Greenspan's fault ... if you're older than 20, somebody might say it's your fault ... Superficial analysis is ... easy :)
     
    #20     Nov 19, 2008