The curse of the billygoat

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Oct 5, 2016.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    True

    "Just want to congratulate the Indians on an unbelievable season. You guys did something that nobody would ever think you guys could do, and we're very proud of you. The whole Cavs organization, all the fans, the whole city of Cleveland, we're all proud of you guys. You guys got nothing to hang your heads low about. Use this as inspiration and get ready for next year.

    "Also want to congratulate the Chicago Cubs on winning the World Series -- the first one in 100-plus years. Magical season to y'all, you guys were the best team in baseball all year, man, and you guys showed why. Much respect to both ball clubs ... looking forward to seeing [the Indians] back out there next year, so all good."- Lebron James
     
    #61     Nov 3, 2016
  2. nitro

    nitro

  3. fhl

    fhl

    Bill Murray and the goatbusters were the diff.
     
    #63     Nov 3, 2016
  4. nitro

    nitro

    #64     Nov 4, 2016
  5. nitro

    nitro

    Hearing Bartman is going to throw the first pitch of the 2017 season!!!!!

    Glad to see this happen. For Gods sake, the guy was reaching for a foul ball as a fan. Not 1 in 100 of us would have done differently.

    bartman.jpg
     
    #65     Nov 4, 2016
  6. nitro

    nitro

    Thanks. Likewise! :cool::thumbsup:
     
    #66     Nov 4, 2016
  7. nitro

    nitro

    This will be debated in the off-season. Most everyone I know believes this. I think Joe was being Joe, and sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.

    I think Joe manages by psychology and pattern he sees of his players in realtime than by statistics and traditional baseball mythology. Not instead of, but he orders the psychology of the player now above all. Also, the more experienced the player, and success the player has had, in pressure situations, the more of a leash he is willing to give him.

    "Never tell me the odds" - Hans Solo

    Joe Maddon 'choked' and nearly cost his Cubs the World Series
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    New York Daily News

    Andy Martino23 hrs ago

    When Joe Maddon shoved aside baseball lifer Rick Renteria two years ago to become manager of the Chicago Cubs, a hungry fan base rejoiced, believing that their team had found a genius to lead it to a championship.

    But today, as a drowsy America celebrates the Cubs’ World Series win, an odd realization cuts through our case of the warm-and-fuzzies: Maddon, far from delivering the victory, nearly cost his team its chance at history.

    “It’s amazing to say, but they won despite him, not because of him,” said one rival scout Thursday morning, echoing an opinion that bounced around baseball all Wednesday night and into the morning. “He choked.”

    To the general public, this is a nitpick. The Cubbies broke their curse! But to those of us who derive pleasure from scrutinizing the X’s and O’s of this beautiful game, Maddon’s moves provided a fascinating handbook on how to give away a World Series - made all the more interesting by his well-deserved reputation as an innovator, and one of the game’s bright lights.

    Maddon has always been an ebullient, even inspiring, man of ideas. He is unafraid to view the game in an original way, and delighted to talk about it. As Terry Collins’ bench coach in Anaheim in the late 1990s, Maddon made use of spray charts to suggest shifting his defense to the right side of the field against lefty slugger Ken Griffey Jr. Nearly two decades later, the trend toward defensive shifting has revolutionized the game.

    Maddon has also proven himself a brilliant communicator, and helped to change the culture of the once-moribund Tampa Bay Rays during his tenure as skipper of that team.

    Many in baseball’s rank-and-file cringed in 2014, when Maddon took the Cubs job from Renteria, who was under contract and had waited a lifetime for the opportunity. It was a gross violation of protocol and basic decency, but the Cubs reasoned that since Maddon was special, the opportunity was worth its human cost.

    One cannot argue with the results achieved under Maddon the past two seasons, as Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer’s stacked rosters advanced to the NLCS in 2015, and brought home the team’s first title in 108 years last night. But the manager’s shocking litany of bad decisions this week nearly cost him his reputation. There but for the grace of Ben Zobrist went the genius label forever....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...rly-cost-his-cubs-the-world-series/ar-AAjRr2K
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2016
    #67     Nov 4, 2016
  8. fhl

    fhl

    Maddon yanks Hendricks from victory parade after 4 2/3 blocks.
     
    #68     Nov 4, 2016
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I woke up under a park bench. My bar tab was over $700. Ouch.
     
    #69     Nov 4, 2016