The Credit Crisis Financial Stocks Short Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. Lockhart being predictably hawkish out there, but he's a non-voter.

    *LOCKHART: `TIME IS APPROACHING' TO WEIGH RECALIBRATING POLICY
    *LOCKHART SAYS RATES MAY NEED TO RISE AMID HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT
     
    #2071     Jun 3, 2010
  2. Daal

    Daal

    Hey Martin,
    how are you positioning yourself for the next 1 or 2?
     
    #2072     Jun 3, 2010
  3. Trying to be as cautious as I can. Only very high conviction trades. Among the main views: continued dis-inflation in Euroland; continued high inflation prints in the UK; outperformance of Swiss and Swedish economies vs their European counterparts. I am relatively bullish on the US eco, but still believe rates will remain low for a long time to come. Not sure what else I can add to that.
     
    #2073     Jun 3, 2010
  4. The Dec are trading at 99.67 - current max upside of 10 or 11 ticks. Assuming a blowout number, what might you expect them to drop to? At what level are you a buyer again?
     
    #2074     Jun 3, 2010
  5. Daal

    Daal

    One serious possibility of profiting from the BP is to short puts at levels that would make the stock a huge bargain
    http://www.growthstockwire.com/archive/2010/Jun/2010_Jun_03.asp?printdoc=print

    I like this trade, yes you lose a lot if BP goes bankrupt and people who follow the risk reward religion tend to not like that. But there is a price for everything. In this trade you make $150 and stand to lose $2000 if the stock is a $0(actually $1850), so according to my math(which could be wrong), it seems that there is an 8% chance of a $0. That seems insanely high, the company has $91b in assets($71b tangibles) against $32b in debt, plus strong cashflows, its worth way more functioning rather than liquidated, which means it would get bought out on the way down.
    The only thing that I'm not a fan of is the margin that it ties up but I'm considering picking up some premium here
     
    #2075     Jun 3, 2010
  6. Daal

    Daal

    I'm a buyer at current levels, its just that I'm nervous about NFP reports, they tend to be asymmetric, the drops are usually massive and gains small but everyone knows that, maybe its already in the price. I have no clue what they will do tomorrow
     
    #2076     Jun 3, 2010
  7. ammo

    ammo

    would a buyer of BP be buying all the future liability for the present
     
    #2077     Jun 3, 2010
  8. Daal

    Daal

    Of course the key to shorting that put, is to size the position in a conservative way and be comfortable with the max downside as well, be aware of how it impacts the margin, just pick a $1 in the ground rather than try to get rich
     
    #2078     Jun 3, 2010
  9. Daal

    Daal

    Not sure what you mean
     
    #2079     Jun 3, 2010
  10. ammo

    ammo

    if there are 10 years of lawsuits for the damages in the gulf, would the new buyer be on the hook,i can't believe bp could walk away by selling the company and i dont know why a buyer would assume the liability
     
    #2080     Jun 3, 2010