The Coronavirus Is Here Forever

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ninja Mobile Trader VPS, Aug 23, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And yet the scientists who did the research say the drug should not be used for treating Covid-19.

    And the manufacturer of the drug, Merck, states Ivermectin should not be used for treating Covid-19.
     
    #381     Sep 8, 2021
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  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    You mean the Irish Nobel lauriate Campbell (shared with the Japanese researcher) who makes no claims that its an effective drug against Covid-19? I'm Irish too, last I heard on the Irish Web radio was his concerns about misguided use/abuse and proper research.

    If something can be found to overcome the issue of the lungs being an excellent filter and stopping Ivermectin achieving sufficient concentration to be useful in vivo (last I heard this was the primary issue) then great. Well assuming it does not have side effects through this. But there are many other drugs that do work.

    Who's a retard? You are a retard. Don't drag William Campbell into yours. I am little bit retard though for replying to you my little fart sniffer.
     
    #382     Sep 8, 2021
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  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Are these people low IQ or something when they see a drug developed and used for the treatment of intestinal parasites in humans...

    They then think it's suitable as an antiviral treatment of Covid even after the person and company that make the drug state it's NOT suitable for the treatment of Covid.

    Yeah, it's possible that may change one day in the future but that one day is not today.

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    #383     Sep 8, 2021
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  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    In addition the hypothesis that de-worming people who live in parasite endemic areas would help their immune response to covid-19 has taken a knock with this study showing people with intestinal parasites have a better chance not worse. It's not conclusive yet of course.

    I hazard this is like the way respitory viral infections block each other. With the immune system already at action stations, a new infection has little chance.

    In addition to:

    "Parasite-driven immunomodulatory responses may mute hyper-inflammation associated with severe COVID-19."

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00334-5/fulltext#
     
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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    The thesis is Ivermectin has anti-viral properties (which was shown successfully in trials for other viruses by disrupting some mechanism); similar thesis as HCL. It's not as cut and dry as "an anti-parasitic can't be an antiviral". There's good info on the wiki for it.

     
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    #385     Sep 8, 2021
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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    The issue has been getting enough of the drug where it needs to be in clinically significant levels, safely.

    A dumbo rat (twice removed) republican gets his Ivermectin.
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    This appears to work, high concentration in the lungs, nobody is surprised.

    Now.. Most people with an education have a gist one needs to be careful with nebulised drugs as its about the same as injecting into the vein. The Ivermectinite Church seems to understand that promoting this approach which WILL kill more than they want to take the heat for is a bridge too far. Well unless they are, fuck it.

    The Ivermectinite Church not about helping people with covid, it's about those people thinking they owe you their life and shit.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-74084-y

    Anyhow, it's stupid o'clock and I'm heading south in an Uber, hopefully tonight's Dupinder is a smooth driver as I need to nap.
     
    #386     Sep 8, 2021
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  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Well, that appears to be the case anyway. The problem is we still have plenty of people outside the states w/o vax and you don't do science by attacking any potentially promising study as "lolz horse dewormer". I still haven't seen the AIIMS prophylactic study disputed. GWB posted a similar one by McGill prof that's the closest I've seen addressing the claim.

    The only reason I didn't advocate much for continued HCL use beyond mounting evidence of it not doing anything was the relative complications from overdosing. It's much harder to get to that point w/IVM....until you get idiots sucking cattle dosages who have the resources to get a wildly effective vaccine and easily accessible PPE instead.
     
    #387     Sep 8, 2021
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  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Or until they nebulise paste in contaminated tap water.

    I decided to delete the post linking to the nebuliser study as there are too many halfwits around but lost signal. Screw it.

    I expect some of the mocking it is done knowing that actually a lot of halfwits will be discouraged by this oversimplification. Of course many don't see it as all just compounds.

    Of course again, getting the desired concentration does not mean its an effective treatment doing less harm than good.
     
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  9. userque

    userque

    I suspect some have already tried this.

    Next up is vaping and mainlining.
     
    #389     Sep 8, 2021
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  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

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    #390     Sep 8, 2021