The Coronavirus Is Here Forever

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ninja Mobile Trader VPS, Aug 23, 2021.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    All good points :)
     
    #161     Aug 28, 2021
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  2. You’ve said you volunteer at a hospice on Colombia, involving yourself with patients and procuring needed equipment over the past several years. Seeing the gift and the unclipped fingernails, assuming they are yours, make me fear you may be a patient. I hope that is not the case.
     
    #162     Aug 28, 2021
  3. jem

    jem

    Sometimes slippery slope arguments are true.

    Fallacy arguments are frequently used fallaciously.



     
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    #163     Aug 28, 2021
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  4. You interested in side shows? The concept of slippery slope applies to censorship because of the inherent difficulty of determining where the cutoff point is in deciding what to censor or not. As an example, try to create a ruleset prohibiting certain speech, subjects, facts, opinions, belief systems, acceptable conduct, etc. It is probably impossible to maintain consistent policy and as rules are created, people are likely try to circumvent them in some way in order to adequately express their ideas, requiring additional rules, hence the term slippery slope of censorship.

    Care to rejoin the main event known as Covid, yet?
     
    #164     Aug 28, 2021
  5. userque

    userque

    Given no other facts:
    Saying it 'could' happen is not fallacious.
    Saying it 'will lead to,' etc. ... is.
     
    #165     Aug 28, 2021
  6. jem

    jem

    its really about how tenuous the connection is between where you start and where you end.

     
    #166     Aug 28, 2021
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  7. userque

    userque

    It wasn't a side show. The point I addressed was that COVID mandates lead to this that and the other. I somehow remember you as being better at bullshitting and twisting words.

    To address your side show:

    The fallacy of slippery slope has nothing to do with the difficulty in making decisions. It's premised upon the notion that a decision, however easy or difficult to make, will necessarily lead to other things becoming true.
     
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    #167     Aug 28, 2021
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  8. userque

    userque

    It's more than that.

    The slippery slope fallacy speaks to a certainty as to what will happen in the future, if something occurs in the present.

    For example, "Mandates will lead to an oppressive government."

    Versus, "Data shows that mandates increase the probability that a government will become more oppressive within 5 years."

    The first example is the fallacy.

    Even if something is very likely (99%), we still can't speak to it as if it's a certainty. Doing so would also be a fallacy.

    If the connection you speak about is strong, then simple describe it as such--rather than speak as though it's something that's bound to happen.
     
    #168     Aug 28, 2021
  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    Baron...Thank you. Apparently, this extreme liberal communist wants you to adopt the ways of the politburo like in Communist China. If you do not agree to the propaganda, you need to be censored then, thrown into jail. Too bad, we cannot deport these avowed communists back to China where they belong. Why are they trying to take the rights of US citizens away?
     
    #169     Aug 28, 2021
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  10. I support my opinions through facts and or reasoning, for all to see. Further, I often point out the weaknesses of my position if those weaknesses have not already been covered in other posts. In addition, I have changed positions when evidence has warranted it. Think of me as a truck driver who demands social justice on various issues from time to time.

    The entities that do the distorting of various issues have their self interests, that includes money and influence in mind. It is unfortunate that less aware people get sucked into supporting positions that are contrary to their own self interests. When it comes to Covid, my focus is people should be informed and take action after considering their own personal situation and belief systems, not solely on well crafted marketing pieces that are sometimes disseminated through paid social media posters. Vaccines are a product, created by an industry who does not have an impeccable reputation in regards to product safety or marketing, paid for by a third party, that includes a warning label, if read and understood, would likely dampen any enthusiasm by a more informed person, and the fact pharmaceutical companies have won enhanced legal protection against adverse vaccine outcomes, suggesting there are undefined risks with at least some of these rushed to market vaccines.

    In the end, one’s quality of live can come down making good, informed decisions. A decision to be vaccinated or not vaccinated can be sound, based on an individual’s unique circumstances. There is no way a centralized authority can effectively make that decision for everybody, especially considering Covid is not an extreme risk to the health of our population at large.
     
    #170     Aug 28, 2021