The Coronavirus Is Here Forever

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ninja Mobile Trader VPS, Aug 23, 2021.

  1. VPhantom

    VPhantom

    …and there's that total lack of human empathy I just mentioned. Others be damned if it inconveniences me! Me! Me!
     
    #121     Aug 28, 2021
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  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    That's the key in North American hospitals, those that believe Covid is just a cold or flu should just stay home and self-care (quarantine if possible) instead of clogging up the hospitals that prevent others with other illnesses / injuries not related to Covid not getting proper medical care.

    My brother is an ICU Doctor in South Dakota, my sister is an ICU Nurse in Illinois, girlfriend is an head ICU Nurse here in Québec, Canada...

    We do weekly conference calls and its becoming a common theme. Other patients are not getting proper medical care in hospitals that are nearing or at their capacity levels due to Covid illnesses of those that chose to be not vaccinated.

    Their choices has taken away or reduced the medical care of others. In some cases, hospitals at capacity levels are forced to Medivac patients from one hospital to another hospital for care of a Covid patient because the prior hospital was at capacity (e.g. not enough ventilators, not enough beds, not enough doctors/nurses).

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    #122     Aug 28, 2021
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  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Use www.qcovid.org/calculation or similar

    My risk 1 in 13,000 of dying next 3 months I would sign away covid health care for 1 in 10 to avoid the jab, I generally keep everything off my record and occasionally black market antibiotics when needed, old habits don't want anything ruining my chances of seeing action again although 50 but live in hope.

    Loads of double jabbed deathes reported Spain and Uganda and Isreal.
     
    #123     Aug 28, 2021
  4. VPhantom

    VPhantom

    Round numbers: an order of magnitude less risk of symptomatic infection. 2-4 orders of magnitude less risk of hospitalization upon infection. Near-elimination of the risk of death. Near-elimination of the risk of Long Covid (an issue with at least a quarter of sympatomatic infections without vaccination) because vaccination severely blunts our immune over-reaction to infection. Those massive reductions in risk are a hell of a tangible benefit!

    There's a major difference between "less effective against the spread of Delta" and "doesn't protect much against Delta". Reality is the former, you imply the latter. In my province, 97% of hospitalizations for Covid are not vaccinated. It's obvious that vaccination has a major impact.
     
    #124     Aug 28, 2021
  5. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    So you want people with in my case low ofds who's had and can't get again without a jab, to get jabbed risking a pointless jab and likely 3monthly jabbed for life with Graphene Oxide and getting it potential every time I get jabbed, so therefore filling up the hospitals more?

    This makes logic sense to you?

    I've had it 18months+ I've been in close contact with I've not re had it, natural immunity all the way.

    Total lack of empathy for you to expect me to take a danger jab every 3 months for no reason.

    Gladly sign away covid treatment, prefer to DIY anyway, just cause NHS are aweful.
     
    #125     Aug 28, 2021
  6. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Don't give me Delta BS its going around here, that proves your total lack of any idea what's going on ffs.

    Delta is Flu, same symptoms ie sneezing, bad throat, runny noise, bad cold / flu, same incubation period 3 to 6 days, do you really think Covid can mutate this much, hell no, pcr and lateral flow tests can't tell difference between flu and covid, check cdc site for proof.

    There lying to keep the fear and control going, I've got Delta currently everyone in my area has, trust me it's flu, ive had covid and flu many times and this is 100% flu.

    Covid was barely noticeable, Delta lol sucks ass 10days :(
     
    #126     Aug 28, 2021
  7. easymon1

    easymon1

    VPhantom, please post your data and the source. Thanks
     
    #127     Aug 28, 2021
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  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    This is the exact problem. Whole "hours of research" is what so many do, blissfully unaware of what it actually takes. (just like trading and trading is quite simple)

    When my mom was diagnosed with cancer nearly 15 years ago I stopped doing all company work and hit the books. In five months I still did not have a clue and this despite "talking" to many people who had cancer working in hospices for years before and input from many doctors. It's fantastically complex and a year just focused on the bare essentials would not be sufficient. She had six months. I had no chance, I'm in the top 2% of intelligence, hard worker but I had no chance in 100 years. I'm just not smart enough by a country mile but I get that now, so many never do.

    This virus is not going away, just change, it was not expected to by anyone qualified and experienced past a certain point in the very early days when containment was a slim to no chance (but still a chance).

    I expect at this stage most of your generation know somebody who has not fully recovered in some way. I know a 30 year who was a great cook and she has not recovered 80 percent of her sense of taste/smell in 12 months. Its something she will have to get used to.

    There will be another novel virus probably within six years, and another sooner again. The human population growth/crowding is such that just as happens in animal models, the frequency of these pandemics which have been pretty regularly spaced will increase. Otherwise the planet would have had only one species a long time ago. But we don't want to do that. We need to accept its better living through shots and therepeutics that actually work.

    Thankfully Elon is building a silvery fleet of beautiful Starships to transport all the great minds to Mars, well all the ones who think they are. Around 1/3 of humanity. He not just planning on leaving them all there and forget about them or nothin'

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    #128     Aug 28, 2021
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  9. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Playing them at there game, remember to ignore it when they do post lol
     
    #129     Aug 28, 2021
  10. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    Please be specific about the misinformation you are referring to.
     
    #130     Aug 28, 2021
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