The Conservative Principle

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buy1Sell2, Dec 28, 2017.

Are you a Conservative?

  1. Yes

    19 vote(s)
    51.4%
  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    27.0%
  3. Mostly

    8 vote(s)
    21.6%
  1. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    The caveat comes in the form of voter turnout. The report claims that if turnout among Democrats and independents match their maximum historical highs, Trump would lose in a tight race.

    "An average of the three sets of model results suggests that if turnout of nonincumbent voters in 2020 matches the historical high across states, then Democrats would win a squeaker with 279 electoral votes to the president’s 259," the report reads.

    "Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Minnesota and New Hampshire would all flip from Trump’s column versus our average turnout baseline."

    .....

    "Moody's said they have corrected their turnout models from 2016, which caused the forecast to incorrectly predict a victory by Hillary Clinton."

    Trump win was anomaly not to be repeated again, they changed the rules in the middle of trading plan so to speak. And they will be wrong again.
     
    #551     Oct 16, 2019
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Its all gonna come down to the African-American vote. If blacks turn out, Trump is toast. That's why I have said Biden needs to secure Abrams as a running mate. That'll be the perfect mix. She'll turn out numbers like Obama did. Now TFT disagrees with me on this, but I beg to differ. The prospect of her being the first female VP and next in line for the throne is more than enough to rekindle that excitement again. Especially with Trump being the opponent. And her far left bent combined with Biden's not so much... will be presented as the perfect balance to win all the Bernie and Pokey voters once Joe gets the nomination.

    Also, I have a feeling these kids that are first time (presidential) eligible, the 18 to 22 year olds.... I have a feeling they are gonna come out in force like we have never seen before. The left leaning ones.
     
    #552     Oct 16, 2019
  3. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Yes, Biden needs black VP to secure win, but not Abrams. With Biden age, it would be a real possibility for her to become a president. I sure do not to see her at the helm. Yes black turn out would be big, but it will be offset by moderates like me, who would not show up.
     
    #553     Oct 16, 2019
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    No way.... I totally disagree that moderates would stay home. We're talking 4 more years of Trump. That hate runs deep. No registered Dem is staying home this time.
     
    #554     Oct 16, 2019
  5. Whoever wins we could set a new high for voter turnout and that in of itself is good.
     
    #555     Oct 16, 2019
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  6. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Correct. But people like me who are tilting toward Dems will not vote for president Abrams. He needs a strong VP and then it is smooth, almost guaranteed, sailing to WH.
     
    #556     Oct 16, 2019
  7. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Plus high voter turn our usually benefitial for Dems.
     
    #557     Oct 16, 2019
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    High voter suppression you mean?
     
    #558     Oct 16, 2019
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Once again, FAKE NEWS from The Idiot Left. ----Pelosi had a meltdown, not Trump. ---One thing that the Trump presidency has revealed in a big way is the fact that the media and Idiot Dems (one and the same), will out and out lie to diminish Republican's stature.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2019
    #559     Oct 17, 2019
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    nuh uh, Pelosi said it 1st, so she has dibs. Trump had the meltdown. Check your messiah's twitter time stamp vs Pelosi's press conference.
     
    #560     Oct 17, 2019
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