The Conservative Principle

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buy1Sell2, Dec 28, 2017.

Are you a Conservative?

  1. Yes

    19 vote(s)
    51.4%
  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    27.0%
  3. Mostly

    8 vote(s)
    21.6%
  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt


    The President doesn't have "sole power" over our troops. You're wrong.

    As per Article 1 of the Constitution, Congress has the power to declare war. Now I can't imagine a situation where Congress would want war and the President wouldn't... but regardless, Congress can declare war... they don't need the President's blessing.

    Also, he needs Senate approval for Ambassadors and Consuls. Same goes for Treaties, and they require two thirds of the Senate.

    .....So he/she is certainly not the "sole voice" of foreign policy. Period.

    And besides.... what is your point anyway? The whole issue here is he 2-faced and back-stabbed the Kurds (just like he did Cohen and others)... despite the advice of generals, advisors, and the intelligence agencies. Now Turkey has shut off the escape routes and the mass slaughter of soldiers that helped us in our efforts is imminent.

    So what exactly is your point? Despite you being wrong on what you wrote about "sole power"?
     
    #501     Oct 9, 2019
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  2. Dont argue with Rain man
     
    #502     Oct 9, 2019
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    In addition to being the sole voice for American foreign policy as I have shown, the president of The USA does not answer to the House of Representatives. At any time, he/she can exercise "Executive Privilege". Trump went above and beyond in being transparent by releasing the transcript of his phone call with the Ukrainian president. He didn't have to do that, but since the call was benign and Ukraine said it was ok to release, he went ahead and did so. With regard to any other subpoenas or requests from The House, he would be quite correct in just ignoring the queries.
     
    #503     Oct 9, 2019
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    "Sole voice".... ummm, no, you haven't shown.
    B1 for real.... are you that ignorant? You can't see that if Congress declares war on a country, that's pretty much a foreign policy statement wouldn't ya say?
    They don't have to ask for permission from the President.

    As enumerated by Article 1 of the Constitution.

    He is therefore NOT the "sole voice" Mr. Constitutional scholar...:banghead:
     
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    #504     Oct 9, 2019
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  5. only thing scholarly about that fuckhead B1S2 is his legendary ignorance on constitutional subjects.
     
    #505     Oct 9, 2019
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    is it wrong I keep b1s2 off ignore just to see him get dunked on by everyone? I feel like I'm taking pleasure on the bullying of a retard
     
    #506     Oct 9, 2019
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    et tu fox?

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    #507     Oct 10, 2019
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Under the Constitution, the President serves as head of state and head of government. In most other governments, the two functions are separate. As head of state, the President is, in effect, the personification of the U.S. and its visible image, its sole voice and its primary representative to the outside world. As head of government, he formulates foreign policy, supervises its implementation and attempts to obtain the resources to support it. He also organizes and directs the departments and agencies that play a part in the foreign policy process. In other words, while some believe that others are involved in the establishment of foreign polcy, they are grossly misled. The president simply has other people involved to gather resources and effect logistics of the president's doctrine.
     
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    #508     Oct 10, 2019
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Currently, the Democrats are attempting impeachment by just a small portion of the country. Basically, LA, SF and NY. The rest of the country be damned.
     
    #509     Oct 10, 2019
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #510     Oct 10, 2019