The Conservative Principle

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buy1Sell2, Dec 28, 2017.

Are you a Conservative?

  1. Yes

    19 vote(s)
    51.4%
  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    27.0%
  3. Mostly

    8 vote(s)
    21.6%
  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Reader---the president of the US, whether Democrat, Republican or anything else, has the sole voice for establishing foreign policy. ---The president is the sole determinant of the direction of foreign policy and as such is the face of the nation. Libprogs just fail to get it. Just as they don't understand that the president does not answer to The House of Representatives. He answers to The People. The executive branch is unitary and the president has plenary power to direct foreign policy.
     
    #481     Oct 8, 2019
  2. Reader -----, ^^This Guy^^ is a lying sack of shit with no credibility, he claims he is a constitutional scholar but has not cited any of his publications to prove such claims. he is constantly wrong and incapable of articulating any of his points. above is another clear example of him acting in ignorance of the rudimentary and fundamental aspects of the US constitution.
     
    #482     Oct 8, 2019
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    brutal:
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    #483     Oct 8, 2019
  4. Let's see any President get a treaty done or engage in international commerce with other countries unilaterally.
     
    #484     Oct 8, 2019
  5. Simple. Just rename the treaty as a deal.

    Can't get a Iran Nuclear Treaty done with Iran because there is not enough support?

    No prob. It just becomes the Iran Nuclear Deal and the president just announces that it has been done.

    Could happen, eh?
     
    #485     Oct 8, 2019
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Under U.S. law the JCPOA is a non-binding political commitment.[151][152] According to the U.S. State Department, it specifically is not an executive agreement or a treaty.[153] There are widespread incorrect reports that it is an executive agreement.[154][155] In contrast to treaties, which require two-thirds of the Senate to consent to ratification, political commitments require no congressional approval, and are not legally binding as a matter of domestic law (although in some cases they may be binding on the U.S. as a matter of international law).[154][f]
     
    #486     Oct 8, 2019
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  7. Correct. And Mr. Ocho referred to a treaty and I gave an example of how to get around it when there is not enough support.

    And correct again, "deals" are not treaties that are binding, so therefore Trump violated nothing in withdrawing from the Iran Deal.

    Not sure why we needed you to confirm that but whatever.
     
    #487     Oct 8, 2019
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Well, Ocho said that you need congress to ratify an international treaty. Otherwise you end up w/a toothless unenforceable, useless "deal" as you suggested. So Ocho's argument of needing congress to do foreign policy refutes what b1s2 spouts and is further reinforced by the example you bring up.

    Which begs the question, did you bring it up in defense of b1s2's statement or?
     
    #488     Oct 8, 2019
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  9. As I have said many times before, stick with your routine of posting links. The minute your try to think and post independently, it gets very goofy, very fast.

    Not your thing. Stay with the scripts.
     
    #489     Oct 8, 2019
  10. In other words, H4M is correct.
     
    #490     Oct 8, 2019